Muscle soreness/pain not at injection site

[Swilderbeast]

I had the initial injection site pain in the thighs and butt. But I’m noticing a lot of pain/soreness in various other muscles IE neck, shoulder, biceps seem to be the most prominent. My lifts haven’t gone up drastically from where I was prior to running gear. I’m 6 weeks in on 600mg/wk of TC 200. New supplier, wondering if bad batch, poor quality, etc can cause excessive muscle pain. I will start tracking pain level of each day and see if it correlates with injection timing. Anyone else experience this?

[Mooseman33]

so ur running 600mg test c a week?
what is the injection breakdown?

what are ur current stats and goal?

as always, most of time if results are not coming its:
1. diet
2.training
3. gear sucks

[Test Monsterone]

I didn't notice anything my first time around until week 9. I slowly tapered up my doses though, from 250 mg > approx 900 mg. I didn't notice much in the way of strength, though... my when I weighed myself I noticed the change and people were telling me I'm looking bigger.

[Swilderbeast]

Diet is on point - breakfast 1 egg/2 egg whites, 1/4 cup steel cut oats, 4 slices turkey bacon

5 other meals every 2.5 hours - 5oz ground turkey lean with 6oz sweet potato

Training on a 4 day a week split with supersets on Saturday

Gear is what I’m questioning. New supplier and still have another 2 weeks till I get blood test to verify if it’s decent or not. It’s just the soreness I’m mostly worried about at this juncture. I was only stating my training hasn’t changed as a way of expressing I doubt it’s from over training soreness as I’m still lifting the same weights. Just wondering if anyone else has had issues with gear causing odd soreness

[Swilderbeast]

so ur running 600mg test c a week?
what is the injection breakdown?

what are ur current stats and goal?

as always, most of time if results are not coming its:
1. diet
2.training
3. gear sucks

Sorry forgot to tag this quote with my last post but also forgot to list TC 200 E3D 1.5cc

[Swilderbeast]

I didn't notice anything my first time around until week 9. I slowly tapered up my doses though, from 250 mg > approx 900 mg. I didn't notice much in the way of strength, though... my when I weighed myself I noticed the change and people were telling me I'm looking bigger.

Are you refering to your first cycle ever? Or first cycle of Test C?

[Test Monsterone]

Are you refering to your first cycle ever? Or first cycle of Test C?

My first cycle. It was a combination of Sustanon in the first few weeks, followed by sustanon + Test C, followed by Test prop week 10 and onward. Test prop seemed to really kick things in.

[Swilderbeast]

My first cycle. It was a combination of Sustanon in the first few weeks, followed by sustanon + Test C, followed by Test prop week 10 and onward. Test prop seemed to really kick things in.

Test prop and SUS are what I’ve run twice in the past (two times once ten years and the other about 20 years ago) but I had a known good supplier at the time and I agree I responded very well off prop, but again I was 20 ish and early 30s both those times. Currently i have 2 new to me suppliers and waiting for blood results after running single esters from each to decide who I’m going to go with. This is the first time also I’m stepping away from SUS and prop, probably should have stayed with what I’d done previously as I feel I have too many variables going at this time. But my #1 goal is to find quality gear then find what works best for me.

[MACKATTACK]

Diet is on point - breakfast 1 egg/2 egg whites, 1/4 cup steel cut oats, 4 slices turkey bacon

5 other meals every 2.5 hours - 5oz ground turkey lean with 6oz sweet potato

Training on a 4 day a week split with supersets on Saturday

Gear is what I’m questioning. New supplier and still have another 2 weeks till I get blood test to verify if it’s decent or not. It’s just the soreness I’m mostly worried about at this juncture. I was only stating my training hasn’t changed as a way of expressing I doubt it’s from over training soreness as I’m still lifting the same weights. Just wondering if anyone else has had issues with gear causing odd soreness

What in the world is this meal plan?

You're eating 5 meals all ground turkey and sweet potato? Drop the bacon amount and up the amount of Egg whites and 1 additional whole egg. You won't get great results with this meal plan. You will see more fullness while on cycle but you will lose the majority of what you gained (if any) a month after cycle.

Your meal plan and low amount of carbs and nearly singular food choice may also be affecting you and your body. You have basically no nutrients in this meal plan. Have we heard of red meat and steak (tons of nutrients)? And you are only lifting 4 days a week on cycle?

You should just stick to doing solo D-Bol cycles lol, would of been icing on the cake lol (this is a joke).......

[almostgone]

^^^ This guy, jeez. Nothing wrong with a 4 day/ week split.

[MACKATTACK]

^^^ This guy, jeez. Nothing wrong with a 4 day/ week split.

Totally disagree, you don't need 3 rest days on cycle.


Off cycle and depending upon your body type, age and how well your body functions (genetics) is a different story.

[almostgone]

Totally disagree, you don't need 3 rest days on cycle.


Off cycle and depending upon your body type, age and how well your body functions (genetics) is a different story.

You don't have a clue. It totally depends on your training style, schedule, and diet.

I see you are still as abrasive as ever

[Honkey_Kong]

I had the initial injection site pain in the thighs and butt. But I’m noticing a lot of pain/soreness in various other muscles IE neck, shoulder, biceps seem to be the most prominent. My lifts haven’t gone up drastically from where I was prior to running gear. I’m 6 weeks in on 600mg/wk of TC 200. New supplier, wondering if bad batch, poor quality, etc can cause excessive muscle pain. I will start tracking pain level of each day and see if it correlates with injection timing. Anyone else experience this?

Are you sure it's the gear that's making you hurt? I was sick for all of last week with a virus that made every single joint and muscle in my body sore to the point where I was popping Aleve and Tylenols as if they were Pez candies.

[Honkey_Kong]

Diet is on point - breakfast 1 egg/2 egg whites, 1/4 cup steel cut oats, 4 slices turkey bacon

5 other meals every 2.5 hours - 5oz ground turkey lean with 6oz sweet potato

Training on a 4 day a week split with supersets on Saturday

Gear is what I’m questioning. New supplier and still have another 2 weeks till I get blood test to verify if it’s decent or not. It’s just the soreness I’m mostly worried about at this juncture. I was only stating my training hasn’t changed as a way of expressing I doubt it’s from over training soreness as I’m still lifting the same weights. Just wondering if anyone else has had issues with gear causing odd soreness

An egg white is only 18 calories. Your oats are only 150 calories and 4 slices of turkey bacon are 60 calories each.

4oz of ground turkey = 120 calories
a 4.7oz sweet potato = 114 calories

You're not eating enough food. Even if you weren't on cycle this isn't enough food to sustain anyone trying to make gains. I suggest you stop your cycle and learn how to eat food.

[Swilderbeast]

An egg white is only 18 calories. Your oats are only 150 calories and 4 slices of turkey bacon are 60 calories each.

4oz of ground turkey = 120 calories
a 4.7oz sweet potato = 114 calories

You're not eating enough food. Even if you weren't on cycle this isn't enough food to sustain anyone trying to make gains. I suggest you stop your cycle and learn how to eat food.

I apologize I quickly wrote out my meal plans as that wasn’t the topic I was looking to cover but someone asked therefore I obliged. Now that I reread it I see it’s all fucked up

Breakfast - 2 whole eggs and 4tbsn egg whites. 4 slices turkey bacon and 3/4 cup steel cut oats.

Remaining 5 meals - 5oz ground turkey, 6oz sweet potato.

According to my food calculating app that’s 2000 calories 175g carbs, 74g fats, 170g protein.

I don’t need variety in my food, as a former marine i have the discipline to be able to eat for sustenance and not for taste. As long as the food hits the targets I’m looking for I don’t need (or don’t feel I need to unless you can give me a solid reason why variety matters) variety.

My goals have never been to become that jacked guy in the gym. I’ve been 250lbs and I’ve been 185lbs. I can say my body feels a lot better sub 200. My goals are #1 cut fat, #2 tone muscle and build if possible but not at the extent of adding fat.

I’ll be 40 years old this year, I’m not trying to look “swole”. I want to look good with my shirt off. I realize my test levels are probably getting close to the bottom of the barrel and this is why I’ve chosen to begin gear.

This is my first time finding my own supplier so I’m on cycle currently more as a way to test the new suppliers products I’m using to see if it is good before creating a better cycle. I’d rather not throw a ton of money down the drain on bad gear. So I will be doing blood work around week 8 of this second supplier.

Lastly yes I’m 100% sure the body pains were due to the first supplier now. I spent 6 weeks on the first suppliers gear and had body pains almost from the onset. I’ve now been on supplier #2 since last Thursday and body pains are almost gone. I’ve had my antibodies checked for COVID I tested positive for having COVID sometime in the past but longer out than a month according to the test. Maybe you were refering to another illness but I (and depending on what you believe about natural immunity) can safely rule out the COVID.

I think that covers everything.

One last piece, I do eat vegetables through out the day between my meals generally a mixture of broccoli, cauliflower, and cucumbers. Really it’s just meant to get me from 1 new to the next. I don’t generally count them as it’s only eaten when I’m feeling peckish between meals.

[Honkey_Kong]

My goals have never been to become that jacked guy in the gym. I’ve been 250lbs and I’ve been 185lbs. I can say my body feels a lot better sub 200. My goals are #1 cut fat, #2 tone muscle and build if possible but not at the extent of adding fat.

I’ll be 40 years old this year, I’m not trying to look “swole”. I want to look good with my shirt off. I realize my test levels are probably getting close to the bottom of the barrel and this is why I’ve chosen to begin gear.

You don't need to cycle gear to be sub 200lbs, tone and lean. And if your test levels are low, you should probably look to actual medical treatment (HRT) rather than just taking gear for a few weeks and then going back to your low T normal self (supposing you recover to where you were pre-cycle). Your quality of life would improve and you'd get pharma-grade gear from a real pharmacy.

[Swilderbeast]

You don't need to cycle gear to be sub 200lbs, tone and lean. And if your test levels are low, you should probably look to actual medical treatment (HRT) rather than just taking gear for a few weeks and then going back to your low T normal self (supposing you recover to where you were pre-cycle). Your quality of life would improve and you'd get pharma-grade gear from a real pharmacy.

Thank you for taking the time to give me your thoughts. As of right now these are my current goals. Once I find a good supplier, coming off cycle and starting the process for TRT is next on the todo list. At which point if I like what I see and want to add more muscle later I will have the supplier needed to do so and I can change what I need to in order to accomplish the next set of goals. Success comes from preparation