Loss of strength on cycle?

[MrRightT]

Currently on a blast and all of my lifts are considerably down by at least 30-50%. Bloodwork showing test and free test through the roof . Has anyone experienced this ? Im on tren /prop/winstrol /t3/arimidex ( cut out clen ). Also experiencing shakiness in my legs/calf's throughout workout and during the day. Ive done multiple cycles and ive never felt anything like this before.

[Testie]

Currently on a blast and all of my lifts are considerably down by at least 30-50%. Bloodwork showing test and free test through the roof . Has anyone experienced this ? Im on tren/prop/winstrol/t3/arimidex( cut out clen ). Also experiencing shakiness in my legs/calf's throughout workout and during the day. Ive done multiple cycles and ive never felt anything like this before.

Rest and nutrition are important however when your talking about 50% on a lift I would wonder what else your blood work says, could be a health issue, wouldn’t hurt to get checked out

[Mooseman33]

how has diet changed.

what are ur current stas

[MrRightT]

Diets been the same but i am on a cut, 200 p 200 c 40 fat . was 220 now about 195 . Got my blood work and had some members review and everything looked pretty good. My estradiol is at 97 however my test is at 2700 or so. Free test is over 800 so i figured my lifts would be crazy like they usually are on cycle but my deadlift alone dropped 100lbs while doing 6 reps. Which is pretty crazy imo.

[Mooseman33]

something is way off here

[AR's King Silabolin]

Strange. Never ever heard about this.
Seems like trolling, but i dont think so.
Even hard to make an educated guess.
What about your bodyweigth and musclesize in the mirrors?

Long Covid then?. Its reported over 200 symtoms. Muscle weakness is very known. Maybe ugot long covid with muscle weakness as the only symptome.
The gear makes u going, but wont help on covid related muscle weakness.

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[Test Monsterone]

He said he lost 25 lbs on this cycle. Of course you feel weaker. What did you think, you would lose 25 lbs and be stronger?

[Honkey_Kong]

Getting a good night's sleep on tren is pretty tough. And you probably wouldn't be able to lift the same when you're 25lbs lighter. My suggestion to you would be go eat at a caloric surplus (heavy on the protein) for a week and take some benedryl to get to sleep and see if your strength improves from where you are.

But yeah this is probably some trolling so congrats.

[Mooseman33]

He said he lost 25 lbs on this cycle. Of course you feel weaker. What did you think, you would lose 25 lbs and be stronger?

i missed that part. think we have our winner.

[SampsonandDelilah]

Weight goes down + calories go down = strength goes down.

I don’t think he’s trolling because I did read his lab report (awful great lengths to troll, although certainly possible).

Can’t expect to have the same numbers on your lifts when you’re 25# lighter and eating in a deficit. I don’t care if the gear is the same. Consider carb cycling maybe and see if your lifts go up on the days you’re in surplus and carbed up. It’s all a give and take…gotta give something to get something.

In your case you’re giving up strength to give up some fat. Ass, cash or grass…no one rides for free

[MrRightT]

[QUOTE=SampsonandDelilah;7567602]Weight goes down + calories go down = strength goes down.

I don’t think he’s trolling because I did read his lab report (awful great lengths to troll, although certainly possible).

Can’t expect to have the same numbers on your lifts when you’re 25# lighter and eating in a deficit. I don’t care if the gear is the same. Consider carb cycling maybe and see if your lifts go up on the days you’re in surplus and carbed up. It’s all a give and take…gotta give something to get something.

In your case you’re giving up strength to give up some fat. Ass, cash or grass…no one rides for free[/QUOTE

Definitely not trolling , genuinely interested in this effect . I had Covid back in December and eased off legs a bit afterwards . I’m on tren and t3(also clen but had to cut it out ) I’m guessing my lack of appetite is from those two . I’m happy with results but never experienced such a drastic drop in strength . I guess I’ll just ride it out have another three weeks or so but considering dropping the t3 and just focusing on diet . Also a strange side effect I haven’t experienced before this is crazy acid reflux . Started taking Prilosec but today was my day off from the gym , so I hit the golf range just to enjoy a day off and within thirty minutes I feel acid /upset stomache and bulky feeling in my throat . All I had was a corn tortilla wrapped with 6 oz of chicken or so and a bit of mild sauce . Seems like any time I eat and do anything physical I’m gagging or feeling nauseous . Again thanks for all the comments . All these issues are way off from anything else I’ve experienced

[SampsonandDelilah]

Tren crushes me when it comes to acid reflux, appetite and GI side effects. It’s why I think it’s a shit bulking agent but magic for recomps and cuts, or just hardening up. I struggle to eat on it and when I do, the stomach acid is so bad I swear I’ll never run it again. What’s amazing about it though is even with inferior calories or a deficiency, I can makes gains which is why Tren is black magic.

What you’re experiencing is totally normal and when you add in t3, it only compounds it. Not sure why the strength has gone SO far down but again, when you’re in a deficit, sleep is off (Tren is king for that too) and dealing with other adverse events, im not surprised

Hang tough and keep the PPI’s and tums on board, not sure how long you’ve been on, but I usually turn the corner around week 5

[MrRightT]

Sorry to hear you deal with it too but really really appreciate you letting me know it’s normal . I was getting a bit worried o wouldn’t be able to finish up the cycle All i do is work eat lift and have to sleep after cause I’m beat and feel like yaking and I’m just on week 5 now .

[SampsonandDelilah]

Sorry to hear you deal with it too but really really appreciate you letting me know it’s normal . I was getting a bit worried o wouldn’t be able to finish up the cycle All i do is work eat lift and have to sleep after cause I’m beat and feel like yaking and I’m just on week 5 now .

It’s not just us bro, it’s well know with Tren . Another reason so many start with the ace ester, so they can abandon ship when they realize Tren is making them it’s bitch

[Cuz]

That cycle you’re running is definitely a more cosmetic style cycle and i think i read you dropped 25-30lbs which is a huge amount of weight. If i dropped that much of course my lifts would go down but it wouldnt matter bc I wouldn’t be cutting down to get stronger.

I can’t honestly speak for such a cut bc ive never done one where i lost one over 10lbs and my strength will usually stay the same at that rate with the tren and winstrol . The tren makes me stronger than other aas i have ever taken and the winstrol i just never wear down hardly can keep banging out reps

With your body weight being down i would say it was normal for you to experience a strength loss im guessing your carb intake is quite low. I cant lift shit without carbs and in a caloric deficit.

Id check and make sure your potassium sodium and calcium intake was good for the shakiness. All of this is sounding like a depleted body to me. Best of luck in resolving

[MrRightT]

That cycle you’re running is definitely a more cosmetic style cycle and i think i read you dropped 25-30lbs which is a huge amount of weight. If i dropped that much of course my lifts would go down but it wouldnt matter bc I wouldn’t be cutting down to get stronger.

I can’t honestly speak for such a cut bc ive never done one where i lost one over 10lbs and my strength will usually stay the same at that rate with the tren and winstrol . The tren makes me stronger than other aas i have ever taken and the winstrol i just never wear down hardly can keep banging out reps

With your body weight being down i would say it was normal for you to experience a strength loss im guessing your carb intake is quite low. I cant lift shit without carbs and in a caloric deficit.

Id check and make sure your potassium sodium and calcium intake was good for the shakiness. All of this is sounding like a depleted body to me. Best of luck in resolving

Appreciate the help . I’ve taken tren before but not ace and I definitely like the results I’m seeing just never expected the changes happen so quickly
Compared to other cycles . I dropped the clen and t3 completely since it doesn’t seem like I needed and I’m feeling much better . Might try again in lower doses to get down under 8- 10%bf. I had my blood work done mid cycle and potassium and calcium was just a tad high and my sodium was within range . I also take nac to
Protect liver since those ranges were elevated along with multiv magnesium and fish oil . Any other recommendations would be greatly helpful. Also had a question regarding tren . How often do these dudes use it ? Once a year is probably the most id go far but I’m interested In what the bodybuilders use . I workout at least 4x a week but mostly 5x and then on my days off I’m either Mtb , surfing , motocross , hiking or golfing . My issue is I can either get big and bloated or really damn lean . Of course the goal is to be both but what kind of dosages are these guys doing . I’ll post pics after cycle and see your guys thoughts. Can I get like these dudes while still enjoying my hobbies or is it all
Or nothing ?