Bro Science Help Needed

[santacruz05]

Hey all,

I am 38 yo, done about 15 cycles - nothing crazy, usually test and deca .

Decently I was coming off of a DECA only cycle and before starting PCT and two weeks after my last dose (my test was low) I started to come down with terrible symptoms. My hands and feet hurt, my neck and back muscles. The pain was dibilitating - it was certainly muscle (or tendon) pains.

I did my PCT and the pain has been reduced but is not gone. I wake up with stiff painful back muscles every day and my hands hurt if i use them too long.

My family doc and I have checked the following:

-All rhumatoid indicators, CPP, RH, Anti CCP, ESR - all came back normal
-All inflammatory markers are normal in blood
-Test and estrogen are normal
-One interesting thing is my SOMATOSIN-C (hGh) is very high. It fluxuates on the maximum normal range.
-My cortisol is normal.
-All standard blood test markers are normal (except low white blood cell count - unsure what this relates to)

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Does anyone have any ideas on blood test I could run or what the hell is going on? It basically feels like my muscles or tendons are not healing in multiple locations.

[Cuz]

15 cycles and you are still doing pct?? I quit that shit after 4 cycles and went trt. To me that’s strange. Maybe you should list everything you took during your last cycle. Stay hydrated you might try tb500 also. If your medical dr doesnt know why im pretty sure we wont either but good luck maybe you will find your answer

[santacruz05]

15 cycles and you are still doing pct?? I quit that shit after 4 cycles and went trt. To me that’s strange. Maybe you should list everything you took during your last cycle. Stay hydrated you might try tb500 also. If your medical dr doesnt know why im pretty sure we wont either but good luck maybe you will find your answer

250mg/week deca . 12 week

[s1nc1ty]

Im just wandering as a newbie.. how does your natural test levels look like after 15 cycles? if you dont mind saying

[santacruz05]

I dont know what they were before - but they are in statistically normal range now.

[Hoss34]

Reach out to the Anabolic Doc. He has Zoom sessions available.

[Honkey_Kong]

You ever think maybe you just caught a nasty virus? I've had one in February where every joint in my body hurt and it lasted for a few weeks.

[Hoss34]

You ever think maybe you just caught a nasty virus? I've had one in February where every joint in my body hurt and it lasted for a few weeks.

I was going to suggest the same. Could be just coincidence, but the OP seemed convinced it had to do with what he was taking.

[santacruz05]

You ever think maybe you just caught a nasty virus? I've had one in February where every joint in my body hurt and it lasted for a few weeks.

No. This is going on for 3 months and my symptoms are tightly related to my test levels.

It is possible the test is masking some underlying issue - but im trying to determine the cause regardless.

[santacruz05]

Reach out to the Anabolic Doc. He has Zoom sessions available.

Sorry could you provide a link? I am interested in this.

[Hoss34]

Sorry could you provide a link? I am interested in this.

He has a YouTube channel. You'll find how to contact him and make an appointment that way

[Honkey_Kong]

No. This is going on for 3 months and my symptoms are tightly related to my test levels.

It is possible the test is masking some underlying issue - but im trying to determine the cause regardless.

Who the fuck in today's era still does deca only cycles? And you've been experiencing symptoms for 3 months? Maybe you should go see an endocrinologist?

[Cuz]

250mg/week deca. 12 week

Thats a cycle?

[s1nc1ty]

Thats a cycle?

if you drink vodka every day for 12 weeks thats a cycle too

[Cylon357]

if you drink vodka every day for 12 weeks thats a cycle too

I LOL'ed too much at this!

[santacruz05]

Thats a cycle?

Yes it was meant to be a therapeutic cycle for an injury. There was like 100mg/test per week added just keep balance.

[santacruz05]

Who the fuck in today's era still does deca only cycles? And you've been experiencing symptoms for 3 months? Maybe you should go see an endocrinologist?

I added a bit a test - but not much. Anyways - I have spoken to 1 endo, they were not helpful. They said I had steroid addiction which was causing muscle pains. Im certain this is not it.

[Cuz]

I added a bit a test - but not much. Anyways - I have spoken to 1 endo, they were not helpful. They said I had steroid addiction which was causing muscle pains. Im certain this is not it.

So you told your endo you took steroids ?

So you did add a bit of test to your 250 deca cycle? How much test did you “add”

[santacruz05]

So you told your endo you took steroids ?

So you did add a bit of test to your 250 deca cycle? How much test did you “add”

Not much - maybe 100mg/week.

Yes I told my endo that I did steroids.