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    General Help Blast

    Started blasting 500mg test and I feel lazy, not motivated, depressed, skipping workouts. First it thought it was high e2 but blood work shows my e2 is in range. I tried switching from pinning MO/TH to EOD to ED (Test-C) with not much success. What should I add to mitigate these effects? I was thinking of adding masteron to lower SHBG and free up test.
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    start at top.

    what exactly are you taking and for how long?
    what is training schedule?
    what is diet?
    what are ur stats and cycle experience?

    lets get this figured out

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    What's your diet look like? Getting enough sleep?

    What's your goal for this cycle? And you call it a blast. Does that mean you're already on hrt?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mooseman33 View Post
    start at top.

    what exactly are you taking and for how long?
    what is training schedule?
    what is diet?
    what are ur stats and cycle experience?

    lets get this figured out
    Just plain ol Testosterone -e, changed source as well and now i'm on testosterone-c

    Training schedule is a PPLPP routine. Diet is clean carbs with red meat and white fish.

    Stats is 190lb / 12% /

    3 cycle experiences (Sarm/Test/Test)

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    Quote Originally Posted by teedoff View Post
    What's your diet look like? Getting enough sleep?

    What's your goal for this cycle? And you call it a blast. Does that mean you're already on hrt?
    Clean diet, clean carbs, red meat, white fish. Sleep is more than enough. Too much to my liking (8-10hrs).

    Goal is building muscle. I'm blasting and cruising instead of going completely off. Not on official hrt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mula View Post
    I followed the advice of blasting 500mg test and I feel lazy, not motivated, and bloated.

    That being said been there done that what would you guys advice me to add to mitigate these effects?

    I was thinking about lowering my dose to begin with to around 300-350 test per week and stack it with masteron .

    From there i would titrate the dosage up depending how i feel for the first couple of weeks.

    Unfortunately blood work is not helping me on 500mg test because my E2 seems in range.

    My prolactin however is sky high reaching to a whopping 66 (and no i'm not taking deca ).

    I even tried pinning every day (test-c) instead of 2x/week with not much success.
    You may not need the masteron since your estrogen is in range.

    Prolactin... start P5P and Vitamin E ASAP to start bringing that down. Maybe consider some caber if that doesn't work in 3 to 4 weeks.

    You should pull a full blood work panel including:
    CBC
    Lipids
    DHT
    estradiol sensitive
    thyroid panel
    Prolactin

    IF you can only afford one blood test, I would wait until the P5P and Vitamin has had a chance to work, so maybe 4 weeks. Google is your friend on doses on those, BTW. I would want to see the CBC, Lipids and thyroid sooner, but if you can only do one lab, wait on it. If you can afford to do two, then pull everything I mentioned minus prolactin now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cylon357 View Post

    Main problem here is fatigue, laziness, depression, lack of motivation. My prolactin is back in range. So that's not the problem.

    Prolactin problem was on my previous blast which was 500mg test only. I dropped down to trt dose (125) after the blast and now cruising for 4 months.

    Now again I upped back the Test-c dose slowly titrating from 125 to 175 to 250 to 350 to 500 on a schedule of multiple weeks to see how I react. And the higher I go the more lazy and unmotivated I become. My body doesn't seem to react well to anything above 250mg/week.

    My first ever cycle was a RAD-140 only cycle without any test base and boy did i react well on that. I had plenty of androgenic effects (cns stimulation, increased energy, mental clarity, increased motivation, increased aggression, etc). On Test only I lack all of those "androgenic effects" it seems.

    I think it's because my body can not utilize all the test i'm giving it. It's not because it converts the test to e2 because my e2 seems in range.

    SO that leads me to this conclusion... One of RAD-140 effects is that it lowers SHBG and increases your free testosterone ... Which in return gives me plenty of agression, motivation, clarity, etc... Let's say these are the "androgenic effects". Then why don't I get it from blasting test?

    That makes me come to the point of adding a DHT compound that will free up testosterone like RAD-140 does (proviron , masteron , winstrol , etc)?

    Test only is not giving me any benefits a part for some extra glycogen retention. I don't see why i should keep up blasting and cruising on test only if it doesn't work for me in a positive way. I'm not getting any of the male characteristics from test only like i did on RAD-140 instead I get lazy.

    Any advice?
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    Consider dropping your T down to say 300 pw and adding in mast or proviron , starting lower and titrating up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mula View Post
    Main problem here is fatigue, laziness, depression, lack of motivation. My prolactin is back in range. So that's not the problem.

    Prolactin problem was on my previous blast which was 500mg test only. I dropped down to trt dose (125) after the blast and now cruising for 4 months.

    Now again I upped back the Test-c dose slowly titrating from 125 to 175 to 250 to 350 to 500 on a schedule of multiple weeks to see how I react. And the higher I go the more lazy and unmotivated I become. My body doesn't seem to react well to anything above 250mg/week.

    My first ever cycle was a RAD-140 only cycle without any test base and boy did i react well on that. I had plenty of androgenic effects (cns stimulation, increased energy, mental clarity, increased motivation, increased aggression, etc). On Test only I lack all of those "androgenic effects" it seems.

    I think it's because my body can not utilize all the test i'm giving it. It's not because it converts the test to e2 because my e2 seems in range.

    SO that leads me to this conclusion... One of RAD-140 effects is that it lowers SHBG and increases your free testosterone ... Which in return gives me plenty of agression, motivation, clarity, etc... Let's say these are the "androgenic effects". Then why don't I get it from blasting test?

    That makes me come to the point of adding a DHT compound that will free up testosterone like RAD-140 does (proviron , masteron , winstrol , etc)?

    Test only is not giving me any benefits a part for some extra glycogen retention. I don't see why i should keep up blasting and cruising on test only if it doesn't work for me in a positive way. I'm not getting any of the male characteristics from test only like i did on RAD-140 instead I get lazy.

    Any advice?
    I'd be suspecting your red blood cell count is high. Have you ever considered making a deposit at the blood bank?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Honkey_Kong View Post
    I'd be suspecting your red blood cell count is high. Have you ever considered making a deposit at the blood bank?
    Nice guess but unfortunately that was in range too on my last 2 blood works.

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    Currently I'm on 350mg T per week with 100mg modafinil and 100mg caffeine per day. It's going a lot better since this week but that might be because of adding the modafinil. I don't have any ADHD or other medicinal reason to take it. It's mainly for the energy and focus and it stimulates your CNS.

    My modafinil is almost done though and I don't see myself taking it again after my supply is done. It fucks too much with my appetite. I ordered clenbuterol and will be taking that instead in low dose. Around 20 to 40mg per day to start and titrate up to an absolute maximum of 80m per day. This is temporarily until I find a solution as to why I'm so lazy and lethargic on test even when I add caffeine only it doesn't help. I take no caffeine days for tolerance.

    I want to order masteron but I'm still hesitating because of the hair rape and excessive sex drive. I'm not into stroking my dick 7 times a day. And yeah for the hair I could care less at least I have a reason to do a hair transplant once it gets really out of hand. My receding hair is already fucked.

    Just wondering if mast at low dose (200-400mg/week) will be somewhat mild on these side effects.
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