Can we get a list of academic dosages along with athlete stacks and cycles?

[TruckerCloud]

Seeing majority of the posts on various anabolic forums, most people show their regimens of par to subpar stacks and cycles, while others have a intermediate stacking regimen, and real pro sports players along with people who are serious into the larger end of bodybuilding have blast cycles and extreme cycles.

What I was asking for is, can there be a list for the more anabolic user people to show dosages and stacking regimens for us to utilize?

- Cruise stacking cycles
- Blasting stacking cycles
- Pro or extreme stacking cycles


Academic cruising dosages:

600mg of testosterone per week.

Published: Bhasin et al. N Engl J Med. 1996.
Source: National Institute of health

Academic blasting dosages:

3,500 mg of testosterone per week

Published: October 28, 2010 springer US
Author: Ezio Gigo, Fabio lanfranco, Christian strasburger
Editors: Christian J. Strasburger, Ezio Ghigo, Fabio Lanfranco

Pro-Extreme cases Athlete dosages:

6,000Mg Dianabol 2 weeks = 3 bottles a week

Published: 2006
Publisher: Williams and Wilkins
Anthony A. Schepsis, Brian D. Buscori

6,000mg of test a week

Published: October 10, 2018
Publisher: Taylor, Francis, Andres Urrestarazu,


Wanted to compile a list of atleast 10 academic sources like the national institute of health, World Health Organization, and Pew research related organizations, along with individual books who have had their hand in sports like bodybuilding where a more individual stack and dosages were used. In the realms of cruisers, blasters and in some cases extreme.

If any more knowledgeable enthusiasts on the matter wanna throw some sources in, to help us gauge what we can work with, not undercutting ourselves from using too little to where significant gains will be seen and at the same time not over shooting it, to where some legends went beyond like Rich Piana, Boston lyod, Dallas mcarver and others did too much gear at once and suffered the repercussions, (RIP Peace be upon them legends).

Let me know what stacks you think are good with a combination of various compounds, what works well with each other, what anabolics offer more bulk, compared to which offer more vascular, more bone and frame etc. Would say I was on the most part a cruiser end, but did a few blast cycles, and held way more benefits, and contemplating on some pro stacks just to give it a go.

Thanks brethen. 💪

[TruckerCloud]

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Crazy stack cycle. From 5,000-10,000 mg of Gear a day to week.

Test, Anavar , Winstrol , Dianabol , etc.

From the myth, the legend, Pete Grymkowski.

From a cruiser stand point, week to week for or monthly. It seems…

600-2,000 mg of test
100 mg of Dbol , Anavar, Winstrol,
200 mg of tren , Deca , Primo
5-10 IU GH

Is what most have as their base.

For more blasters in the world of IFBB, week to week or monthly, it seems…

1,500-4,000 mg of test
150-300 mg of Dbol, Anavar, Winstrol, etc
500-1000 Mg of Tren, Deca, Primo etc
15 IU of GH
Sample Sarms

For Pros, and extreme monsters day to day or weekly

5,000-10,000mg of test
500-2,500mg of Dbol, Anavar, Winstrol, etc
20+ IU of GH
All sarms

And a plethora of other compounds as well, mentioned in their testimonies like masteron , Olga, Sus, superdrol, anadrol , etc.

Just getting a view point of what is stable progress, what is blasting for peak performance, and what dosages you transcend into monster mode.

[Cuz]

Attachment 182826

Crazy stack cycle. From 5,000-10,000 mg of Gear a day to week.

Test, Anavar , Winstrol , Dianabol , etc.

From the myth, the legend, Pete Grymkowski.

From a cruiser stand point, week to week for or monthly. It seems…

600-2,000 mg of test
100 mg of Dbol , Anavar, Winstrol,
200 mg of tren , Deca , Primo
5-10 IU GH

Is what most have as their base.

For more blasters in the world of IFBB, week to week or monthly, it seems…

1,500-4,000 mg of test
150-300 mg of Dbol, Anavar, Winstrol, etc
500-1000 Mg of Tren, Deca, Primo etc
15 IU of GH
Sample Sarms

For Pros, and extreme monsters day to day or weekly

5,000-10,000mg of test
500-2,500mg of Dbol, Anavar, Winstrol, etc
20+ IU of GH
All sarms

And a plethora of other compounds as well, mentioned in their testimonies like masteron , Olga, Sus, superdrol, anadrol , etc.

Just getting a view point of what is stable progress, what is blasting for peak performance, and what dosages you transcend into monster mode.

Can someone make this make sense?

[TruckerCloud]

Sorry, should have put the references on each one. I got the stack regimens and dosages. Like the website more plates from brethren Derrick, who gave a list of what the pros was taking based on their own testimonies, video or book abstract form. Is what I wanted a small sum up of as well.

Most of those dosages I should have included a link video to Jean Fux, Ronnie Coleman, Bostin Lyod, and a bunch of novice to pros who gave their stacking regimes, so we can get a better feel of what we’re going for. A optimal stack, for helping the bros better performance at work, and gym life, or more for the intermediate who wants a overall competitive edge in their sport, ie wrestling, football, bodybuilding etc, and of course for the extreme who wants to capatalize on the stacking cycles most men went all in on.

In short, just some acamedic citations of dosages that covers the 3 branches, of cruise stack cycles, basting stack dosages and extreme stack dosages from Olympians, and pro IFBB brethren’s.

What one man can achieve so can another, the first steps is the building blocks (how much time you can put in the gym or sport) the second steps is the ingredients (how much gear they took will need to be replicated), the 3rd step is the dieting and nutrition, the food consumption in calories and intake weekly or to the month and the over all cycle of conjunctioning your disciplines, steadiness and obedience towards them.

[stocky121]

That 100mg d.bol a day?
I know I don’t juice anymore but do them dosages seem high?

[Honkey_Kong]

Sorry, should have put the references on each one. I got the stack regimens and dosages. Like the website more plates from brethren Derrick, who gave a list of what the pros was taking based on their own testimonies, video or book abstract form. Is what I wanted a small sum up of as well.

Most of those dosages I should have included a link video to Jean Fux, Ronnie Coleman, Bostin Lyod, and a bunch of novice to pros who gave their stacking regimes, so we can get a better feel of what we’re going for. A optimal stack, for helping the bros better performance at work, and gym life, or more for the intermediate who wants a overall competitive edge in their sport, ie wrestling, football, bodybuilding etc, and of course for the extreme who wants to capatalize on the stacking cycles most men went all in on.

In short, just some acamedic citations of dosages that covers the 3 branches, of cruise stack cycles, basting stack dosages and extreme stack dosages from Olympians, and pro IFBB brethren’s.

What one man can achieve so can another, the first steps is the building blocks (how much time you can put in the gym or sport) the second steps is the ingredients (how much gear they took will need to be replicated), the 3rd step is the dieting and nutrition, the food consumption in calories and intake weekly or to the month and the over all cycle of conjunctioning your disciplines, steadiness and obedience towards them.

Fjrst of all, pros are usually not very honest when it comes to what they use or what their actual dosages are. For years, every single pro (regardless of sport) would say they're 100% natural and have never touched steroids or any other PED in their life. And when they do admit to using gear, there is still to this day stigma about it. So often they lie about their dosages.

Second, everybody responds differently to dosages of gear. You can have two people who have never touched gear in their lives, with similar training experience and diet and they can have drastically different results from the same compound at the same dosage. And even with years of cycling or blasting/cruising, you're going to have people that will need far less gear than others at their particular level in their sport. And likewise you'll have guys that need far more gear than others at their same particular level in their sport.

The correct protocol is to take the LEAST amount of gear for you to get the gains you want with the least amount of side effects. if 500mg of test c per week for 14 weeks, to somebody who has never taken gear before, gets them 10-15lbs of muscle, taking 1000mg of test c doesn't mean 20-30lbs of muscle. Likely, it'll be very little more than the 500mg got them. But it will give them considerably more side effects and will build up tolerances to gear That will mean heavier dosages in the future with diminishing returns and MORE SIDES.

And really, even if all of those pro bodybuilders are honest in what they take and how much they take, that doesn't mean YOU should be taking it. They didn't start gear by taking what they currently take. They spent years building their body and increasing their dosages as needed to keep growth. They let their bodies dictate how much they needed per blast/cruise or regular cycle.

Also another thing to consider is those IFBB pros have the genetics to enable them to build the bodies that allow them to compete at that level. You and I, likely don't have those genetics. No matter how much gear we take or how well we train and diet, we're never going to get the bodies those guys have. So is that worth potentially shortening our lives to chase?

[Cylon357]

OP, format your posts better. They are difficult to follow. I'm not sure what it is you are trying to say, but I THINK you are listing out basic, intermediate and advanced protocols.

[TruckerCloud]

Pretty much.

Cruise
Blast
Pro

People can choose from what they feel either they can afford, or train with. You don’t have to blast, or go to an extreme like the IFBB people, but you should atleast know the dosages that overlays all 3. Both as a basic knowledge and an academic one.

For me personally, on the most part let’s say for a 6 month cycle, I can do 3 cruises, a month, 2 blast and one G-era stack. Some one can just cruise all 6 months and still get a huge benefit from it based on the academic dosages, which on the most part, majority of the books I’ve read so far, so much people are underdosaging compared to the smallest peer reviewed regimens, so much wanna sugar coat it and say I’ll just micro dosage, even on that in what numbers are you comparing those dosages to?

In that since you’re either not going to get anything out of it, or will be selling your self short in the whole purpose of using androgens, anabolics, sarms and or peptides. Pretty much just deciding yourself. We go off actual templates of men who’ve been doing it for the passed 4 decades, some in and out, some manage to use for 20+ years straight.

Everyone wants to play expert, instead I’ll just turn to the experts.

[teedoff]

Im completely confused by this thread.

Doses are for the most part already covered in a generic sense of the word, including here in this forum (lots of stickies discussing this), but every one reacts differently to different compounds.

Blood work and side affects will determine what you can run and how much of it. That includes TRT as well. For example, some here can cruise on 200mg a week test. I found out I can not without pushing my estrogen through the roof and developing gyno. 100mg/week is my sweet spot that keeps the sides at bay and still gets my test levels up to a good level.

One size doesnt fit all.