Help Analyzing Blood Work - First Cycle

[BrotherTheresa]

Long time reader, first time poster here. I am currently in the 14 day cooldown phase before pct begins. This BW was taken at week 10 of my 12 week cycle. The lab messed up and didn't order the correct tests when taken at wk8. This was my first cycle with gear and looking to get some experienced eyes to let me know if this looks on par so far.

[almostgone]

Long time reader, first time poster here. I am currently in the 14 day cooldown phase before pct begins. This BW was taken at week 10 of my 12 week cycle. The lab messed up and didn't order the correct tests when taken at wk8. This was my first cycle with gear and looking to get some experienced eyes to let me know if this looks on par so far.




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Try using the Tapatalk app to download. It may be easier. Don't forget to pull labs post PCT/recovery period when the time comes.

[BrotherTheresa]

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[BrotherTheresa]

My cycle:

Wk 1-12 Test-e, 250mg 2x/wk (500mg total/wk)
Wk 1-12 hCG 250iu 2x/wk (500iu total/wk)
Wk 7-12 Anavar 50mg ed
Wk 1-14 Aromasin 25mg ed

PCT will be as follows, 14 days after last injection:
Clomid 100/50/50/50 (comes in 50mg capsules)
Nolvadex 40/20/20/20


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[Cylon357]

What was your cycle?

Your estrogen seems low relative to your testosterone , though that isn't the sensitive test. Lipids are out of whack, but that should correct itself with cleaning up your diet and dropping lipid wrecking drugs.

So it looks like maybe you had an oral on top of testosterone, I'm guessing test was around 500mg per week. You probably also over used AI, which isn't necessarily a bad thing for a first cycle, but once you know how your body reacts, it's frequently better to adjust your other compounds so you don't need as much AI.

[BrotherTheresa]

What was your cycle?

Your estrogen seems low relative to your testosterone , though that isn't the sensitive test. Lipids are out of whack, but that should correct itself with cleaning up your diet and dropping lipid wrecking drugs.

So it looks like maybe you had an oral on top of testosterone, I'm guessing test was around 500mg per week. You probably also over used AI, which isn't necessarily a bad thing for a first cycle, but once you know how your body reacts, it's frequently better to adjust your other compounds so you don't need as much AI.

Pretty spot on hah- look above your post to see my cycle (that post was waiting for approval so it was t there at the time you posted I believe)


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[BrotherTheresa]

What was your cycle?

Your estrogen seems low relative to your testosterone , though that isn't the sensitive test. Lipids are out of whack, but that should correct itself with cleaning up your diet and dropping lipid wrecking drugs.

So it looks like maybe you had an oral on top of testosterone, I'm guessing test was around 500mg per week. You probably also over used AI, which isn't necessarily a bad thing for a first cycle, but once you know how your body reacts, it's frequently better to adjust your other compounds so you don't need as much AI.

Could you give some examples of what adjusting other compounds might look like? Where would you prefer to see estrogen levels, Estradiol closer to 50pg/ml?? Should you try to keep them elevated as much as possible before noticing the sides? Nipple sensitivity would be the first sign?

My first thought was maybe I should have reduced the aromasin to eod or do you think 10mg nolva ed would be best until I notice sensitivity in my nipples and then switch to the aromasin eod after?

[Cylon357]

Could you give some examples of what adjusting other compounds might look like? Where would you prefer to see estrogen levels, Estradiol closer to 50pg/ml?? Should you try to keep them elevated as much as possible before noticing the sides? Nipple sensitivity would be the first sign?

My first thought was maybe I should have reduced the aromasin to eod or do you think 10mg nolva ed would be best until I notice sensitivity in my nipples and then switch to the aromasin eod after?

Sensitivity in the nipples might just be hormonal fluctuations and nothing to worry about. Lump formation or pain, that's the other extreme and when you would want to take more aggressive action, like an AI and a serm like nolvadex .

If you know you are gyno prone, you could just use 5mg nolvadex per day from the start of cycle, adjusting it accordingly. Be advised that it has some sides, so research before blindly implementing.

As for other compounds, again if you are for sure a high aromatizer and or prone to gyno, you next cycle could look something like 400 test and 200 masteron or primo. Masteron will prevent and reverse gyno, primo will actively lower estradiol.

No such thing as a 1 size fits all test to estrogen ratio. You have to work to find what feels best for you.

[BrotherTheresa]

Sensitivity in the nipples might just be hormonal fluctuations and nothing to worry about. Lump formation or pain, that's the other extreme and when you would want to take more aggressive action, like an AI and a serm like nolvadex .

If you know you are gyno prone, you could just use 5mg nolvadex per day from the start of cycle, adjusting it accordingly. Be advised that it has some sides, so research before blindly implementing.

As for other compounds, again if you are for sure a high aromatizer and or prone to gyno, you next cycle could look something like 400 test and 200 masteron or primo. Masteron will prevent and reverse gyno, primo will actively lower estradiol.

No such thing as a 1 size fits all test to estrogen ratio. You have to work to find what feels best for you.

F Estradiol, Sensitive 20.9 8.0-35.0 (pg/mL) BN

This was my sensitive test before I began the cycle. Would it be normal to see estrogen levels in the 150-200pg/mL during cycle, so long as you get it back within range after cycle ends and you aren’t experiencing the side effects?

[Cylon357]

F Estradiol, Sensitive 20.9 8.0-35.0 (pg/mL) BN

This was my sensitive test before I began the cycle. Would it be normal to see estrogen levels in the 150-200pg/mL during cycle, so long as you get it back within range after cycle ends and you aren’t experiencing the side effects?

Response will vary from individual to individual, but yeah, as long as you aren't getting negative sides, then it would be fine to let estrogen climb. I personally would not sweat it until you start getting sides, then nudge it back down.