Second Cycle Wanna Get Lean - Opinions?

[Rugby-Jock]

Hey Fellas

I recently finished my first cycle of:

Weeks 1-8:500mg Test Cyp 300mg Deca

I gained 30lbs and have managed to hold on to 22lbs of it after PCT

Stats:
Age: 21
Height: 5'8"
Weight: 190lbs
BF%: 17%

Second Cycle:
Weeks 1-11: 400mg EQ
Weeks 1-8: 100mg Test Prop EOD
Weeks 1-2/5-6/9-10: Clen
Weeks 3-4/7-8: ECA

Goals:

• 9% Bodyfat Target
• Minimum muscle loss

What do you think?

Thanks, Rugby-Jock

[TheMudMan]

How long ago did you finish your last cycle? Also how long and what did you run for PCT. Great job on keeping on the weight.

[JohnnyB]

With the prop you should go 14 weeks with 11 weeks of EQ

JohnnyB

[Rugby-Jock]

Thanks for the quick reply

I used Nolva for my PCT, I had Clomid but I heard too many stories about the crappy sides, I literally finished 2 days ago and I ran it like this:

Day 1: 100mg
Days 2-11: 60mg
Day 12-21: 40mg

I don't plan on this cycle for 5-6 months, cos I wanna let my natural test levels recover especially as I used Deca .

I'm just looking for some ideas and input ATM.

Thanks, Rugby-Jock

[TheMudMan]

Cycle look ok but I go with the changes JohnnyB made.

Deca is hard to recover from bro....... I would see if you're fully recoved with some blood work. I would have extended the PCT a few weeks also JMO

[JohnnyB]

You havn't already started pct have you, you need to wait 3 weeks with deca and go 4 week on pct.

JohnnyB

[xxxl83]

I'd go with the way johnnyB laid out the cycle but I'd change a few things.

1. I'd up the test prop to 150mg/eod or go with a long acting test (cyp,enanth) @ 500mg/wk. Otherwise you test dose will be 350mg/wk which is alittle low and less than what your last cycle was. The reason I'd change the test is b/c eod injects IMO isn't for "a second cycle" save yourself some pokes and go with a long ester.

2. Add some arimidex ,(liquidex) .25 - .5/ed

Just my .02

xxxl83

[TheMudMan]

You havn't already started pct have you, you need to wait 3 weeks with deca and go 4 week on pct.

JohnnyB

I didn't even see that. No wonder why he still has kept the weight from the cycle.

Yes 3 weeks from last injection and I would run Clomid and Nolva for PCT for at least 4 weeks. JMO

Good catch JohnnyB I guess that's one of the reasons why you're a Vet

[Rugby-Jock]

Yes I waited 3 weeks after my last Deca shot and 2 weeks after my last Test Cyp shot before I started my PCT, that kinda goes without saying don't it?

Thanks for the input anyway guys, keep it comin!

Thanks, Rugby-Jock

[Rugby-Jock]

Been tweaking things a bit and this is what I've come up with

Second Cycle:
Weeks 1-6 100mg Test Prop EOD
Weeks 6-12: 100mg Winny EOD
Weeks 1-10: 400mg EQ

Clen & ECA cycled every 2 weeks

Anyways with a good diet and plenty of cardio can I maintain 178lbs and get to the 10% BF region?

Thanks, Rugby-Jock

[Billy_Bathgate]

You need test the whole time. So run it long.

IF your goals are really dropping that much fat, Id ditch the EQ. I would run prop and tren . Throw in the winstrol in the end if you want.

wks 1-8 75 tren + 75prop ED
3-5 50winny ED if you like

OR something more creative

1-6 500 enanthate
1-10 400 EQ
1-6 50mg winstrol ED
7-12 75 prop + 75 tren ED