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    kickstarting a cycle with fina

    I am 6'5 235 with very low body fat. This is my fourth cycle and I am trying a different approach. I am as lean as I want to be and want to gain very little fat this next cycle (keep abs). I am thinking about running

    week 1-12 750 enan
    week 1-6 100 fina ed
    week 7-12 50 winny ed

    clomid post, and .5 liquidex throughout

    Would really like everyone's opinion. Main questions: what do you think about starting with fina? How much muscle could I put on while only gaining around 5 pounds of fat.

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    bump

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    It's been my experience that fina takes around three weeks to really reach its potential. Seeing that test enanthate will take about 4-5 weeks, the fina will not be as much of a "kick-start" as d-bol or prop or suspension would be. However, fina for 6 weeks followed by the winny doesn't sound like a bad idea to me, I just wouldn't consider it a kick-start per say.

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    Fina, Trenbolone Acetate is a short ester steroid and would work fine for this. Since blood levels saturate within a few days versus weeks.

    I think your cycle looks pretty damn good. You have a consistent amount of exogenous androgen use the entire duration. My only suggestion is similar to what motoxxxguy was gettin' at - I would run the acetate steroid a week or two longer than the 17A-alkylate... and also use the Winstrol while the enanthate runs it's course at the end... something like this:

    Weeks 1-12; 750 Test Enanthate
    Weeks 1-8; 100 Tren Acetate ED
    Weeks 9-14; 50 Winstrol ED

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    the fina and winny would work ALOT better when done together.. since fina takes 3 weeks to kick in start then fina 2 weeks b4 the winny. and use the winny and fina in the last weeks of ur cycle. and use somethign like prop or suspension to kick start ur cycle..

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    I see what animal is saying but I think d-bol is better for putting on raw mass rather than lean gains.

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    kaoz&zen true dbol is a great mass builder.. but hes lookin to gain quality mass (i just get the impression), so i don't think he'll like the bloat... better to use prop, esier to keep mass and less bloat..
    just on the side.. if u think dbol is great for mass u shoudl try suspension 1cc ed.. changed my ways bro..

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    i'd go
    week 1-4 prop or suspension
    week 1-12 750 enan
    week 6-10 100 fina ed
    week 8-12 50 winny ed

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    I wonder if clen would help keep the fat without hendering the muscle gains since you are trying to gain weight. Anyone have any thoughts?

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    I meant to say help keep the fat off

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