Too Much?

**ectogainer** · 10-01-2003, 11:14 PM

Im about to pay for:
10cc bottle of 300mg Deca
20 vials of Sust 250
and 24 tabs of clomid
All of this together cost exactly $590
Is it just me or is this an insane price for this little amout of steriods ?
Please reply quickly i have to put in the order within 36 hours

**ectogainer** · 10-01-2003, 11:24 PM

Just another quick question:

This is my first cycle and I might also have the option of taking:
Test Ethanate: 500 mg a week
Deca : 300 mg a week (or no deca at all ????)
and then post therapy w/ clomid

Right now i have planned:
Sust: 500 mg a week
Deca: 300 mg a week
and then post therapy w/ clomid
(this is the one that costs $590)

Which one do you think would be best for me with the goal of gaining mass?
Thanks bros

**PurePower** · 10-01-2003, 11:27 PM

that is a fucking ripoff man should be around 200ish for all that.

**Jenseno9** · 10-01-2003, 11:28 PM

t2 would be a lot easier and less expensive... sust needs to be injected eod. I would go with just the test e and clomid

***50%Natural*** · 10-01-2003, 11:29 PM

Well, who are you then and where do you stand?

**ectogainer** · 10-01-2003, 11:56 PM

thanks guys-- is t2 or t200 just a nickname for test ethanate? i never really grasped that
I am a newbie 6'1 and 164 as of now. I am skinny and struggling to gain weight but getting there slowly (started at 135). I've been training for 4 years (3 very dedicated). I dont plan on doing the cycle until January or maybe next august but i have to get it now due to availibilty.

Will i get better results from test ethanate too? I am struggling to pack on mass and i want to keep as many gains of the cycle as possible--still think i should go with test?
If i go with test only i could also maybe include Dbol for the 1st 4 wks? Yes or No?
Does anyone else think im getting ripped off?
AHHH so many questions running through my head. i was so sure what i needed until its time to pay up and now im second guessing everything

**Jenseno9** · 10-02-2003, 12:09 AM

Originally Posted by 50%Natural

Well, who are you then and where do you stand?

Are you talking to me?

**ectogainer** · 10-02-2003, 12:11 AM

Sure Jensono9

I'm talkin to whoever can help me--i've read a lot of different posts from you and you definatly sound like you know what your doing?

I know i kinda shot off with a bunch of different questions but whatever you can help me with is awesome

**Jenseno9** · 10-02-2003, 12:25 AM

Sorry I was talking to 50natural...

Maybe this will help ya out.
Ive just started a cycle last week (tomw will be my 3rd injection of t2).
Here is what my cycle looks like
t2 400mg 1-10
winny 50mg 8-12 eod
clomid
Its a pretty simple cycle. Like you this will be my first real cycle.
For a first cycle try and keep it easy. T2 and dbol , or like me t2 and winny is usually a pretty safe bet. You dont know how you body is going to react to aas so starting off slow is a good way to get into it. Its seems like youve put on a lot of weight natural. 30lbs in 3 yrs or about 10lbs a year is alright. Have you looked at your diet. You probably should be eating more calories.
If I were you I would stay away from sust and run something like this
t2 400mg 1-10
Dbol 20mg-25mg 1-4??
Have you thought about deca or eq? They also would make a safe first cycle.
T2 400mg 1-10
deca 400mg 1-10
or
EQ 400mg 1-10
clomid pct (post cycle therapy )
If you have any more ? pm me...hope this helps.

***asymmetrical1*** · 10-02-2003, 01:28 AM

Originally Posted by ectogainer

Just another quick question:

This is my first cycle and I might also have the option of taking:
Test Ethanate: 500 mg a week
Deca : 300 mg a week (or no deca at all ????)
and then post therapy w/ clomid

Right now i have planned:
Sust: 500 mg a week
Deca: 300 mg a week
and then post therapy w/ clomid
(this is the one that costs $590)

Which one do you think would be best for me with the goal of gaining mass?
Thanks bros

run ethanate, cheaper, easier, better for long term mass
your cycle
1-4 30mged/dbol
1-10 500mg/w test ethan
1-8 400mg/w deca
11-13 clomid
and invest in nolva/pro run throughout

***asymmetrical1*** · 10-02-2003, 01:31 AM

also, get a new source

**Whoisdaman** · 10-02-2003, 01:32 AM

definatly being raped on that price, but buy what you can find I guess.

LORDBLiTZ · 10-02-2003, 01:52 AM

For that price it better come with a couple hookers.

**n0_Genetics** · 10-02-2003, 05:40 AM

Originally Posted by LORDBLiTZ

For that price it better come with a couple hookers.

damn right. and you better make sure they look like the HOT chick in your avatar... have been reading this thread for the past 5 mins. 4 spent on your avatar

**ectogainer** · 10-02-2003, 05:25 PM

should i just wait until i come across another supplier?
Yeah nogenetics--thats Heidi Klum - i found this site with a bunch of good supermodel pics
If i decide to go with the test eth, deca , and dbol is that too much for a 1st cycle or should i go for it
any other advice would be great

**LightWeightBaby** · 10-02-2003, 05:36 PM

the sust should be no more than 200 imo, i would say tops 300-350 total package

**Da Bull** · 10-02-2003, 05:59 PM

Originally Posted by asymmetrical1

run ethanate, cheaper, easier, better for long term mass
your cycle
1-4 30mged/dbol
1-10 500mg/w test ethan
1-8 400mg/w deca
11-13 clomid
and invest in nolva/pro run throughout

A little beefy for first cycle,don't you think asym,I would steer more towards Jenseno9's cycle.Quality lean mass. DB

**ectogainer** · 10-02-2003, 06:32 PM

if i go that route i was thinking more like:
1-4 Dbol 20mg ed
1-10 Deca 300 mg week
1-10 Test eth 400 or 500 mg week

**Da Bull** · 10-02-2003, 07:06 PM

Originally Posted by ectogainer

if i go that route i was thinking more like:
1-4 Dbol 20mg ed
1-10 Deca 300 mg week
1-10 Test eth 400 or 500 mg week

20mgs might not be enough.It's still a big first cycle.What are you going to do for pct?You have Nolv & Clom around? Db

**Da Bull** · 10-02-2003, 07:07 PM

Originally Posted by Da Bull

20mgs might not be enough.It's still a big first cycle.What are you going to do for pct?You have Nolv & Clom around? Db

Sorry,saw you have clom,but your short,you need 36. Db

**toolman** · 10-02-2003, 07:31 PM

Originally Posted by asymmetrical1

run ethanate, cheaper, easier, better for long term mass
your cycle
1-4 30mged/dbol
1-10 500mg/w test ethan
1-8 400mg/w deca
11-13 clomid
and invest in nolva/pro run throughout

I like this cycle, but the clomid start date is wrong, it should be 2 weeks after your last Test E injection as well as 3 past deca, whichever comes last.

**ectogainer** · 10-03-2003, 01:40 AM

thanks for all the advise guys--by the way i am getting another 12 clomid pills from some friends making 36 total
One more quick question and i will leave yall alone:
I know that the clomid is a must but i am running short on money and i need to know the most important factors in the cycle for mass gains
i need to know which is more important for the test eth cycle -- should i get Dbol or Deca to finish up the cycle -- i would like to get both but dont know if i can afford it -- is it worth the extra money anyways -- will i actually see MORE gains if i use test eth, deca, and dbol than if i just used test eth with just dbol or just deca
thanks guys i just wanna make sure i do this right

**toolman** · 10-03-2003, 07:28 AM

Not sure if I understand, but if you are saying you can only afford either Deca or dbol to add, then go with the deca.

**ectogainer** · 10-03-2003, 11:05 AM

thanks--thats exactly what im asking
does everyone agree?

**ectogainer** · 10-03-2003, 03:02 PM

DECA or DBOL ?
anyone?

**Da Bull** · 10-03-2003, 03:53 PM

Originally Posted by ectogainer

DECA or DBOL ?
anyone?

Dbol

**ectogainer** · 10-03-2003, 05:19 PM

HAHAHA. Well thats definately two opposite opinions. Do yall have any more suggestions - maybe with some reasons behind it -- thanks bros

***50%Natural*** · 10-03-2003, 09:26 PM

Either one would be advisable for a first time user.

**ectogainer** · 10-07-2003, 10:23 PM

sorry guys BUMP--i am still looking into my cycle to figure out what i should get
Heres what i have so far
Definately 20 cc's Test eth 250mg/ml (10 weeks 500 mg per week)
Definately 36 tabs of clomid (pct)
Definately 35 tabs of nolva (20 mg) (on hand and pct)
But i still have to decide between 168 tabs of Dbol (4 wks of 30 mg ed) or 10 cc's of deca 300mg/ml (10 wks 300 mg per week)
This is my first cylce and i can only afford one or the other
I am definately going for mass but want to keep gains. so which one bros?

**sharky** · 10-08-2003, 12:32 AM

yes it is way to high.i do want you to know that pure power has been around this sht a long time and has to know some really good people to get that kind of price. im thinking about $300 even for those of us who dont have the hookup.