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    Doc Appointment today

    Hey guys I have my check up today after my lil hospital scare. Hopefully I'll be getting bloodwork results back to share with you.

    For my upcoming cycle (in 2 months) I'd like to run a fast acting ester so I can control my body more in case I have problems and need to come off fast. How does this look...

    Weeks 1-10
    50mg of homemade Fina (1 shot of this everyday)
    50mg of RT Prop (1 shot of this everyday)

    For anti e's I'm thinking begining nolvadex @ first sign of symptoms at 50mg...then controlling a dose of 10mg-20mg a day and 600mg of Vitamin B6 instead of Bromo from there on out.

    PCT to begin 2 days after last injection because of the short half lifes of the gear I chose...
    PCT (clomid) @ 300mg first day/100mg day 2-10/ 50mg days 11-20

    good???
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    glad to see you are ok bro. we were worried about you.

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    thanks j

    Quote Originally Posted by PTbyJason
    glad to see you are ok bro. we were worried about you.
    Thanks jason It'd be my honor if you'd critique my cycle (assuming bloodwork comes back ok)

    What do you think bro?

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    I would add some prop in there
    or maybe it was a typo and you meant RT prop???

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    yeah!!! my bad i meant prop i'll fix it using the edit thing

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    bump the prop to 75mg and it looks good.

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    oh ya and good to see you back, whats your email again? I deleted all my msgs and lost your addy, wanted to shoot you an email.

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    Thanks bro.. I sent you my e-mail via PM

    I will deffinately bump prop to 75mg... ED or EOD what do you think?

    Last question, how does my anti-e and PCT set up look

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    You could wait to use the nolva if you feel that you are seeing estrogen related sides...... The vitb6 is a good idea to run in the cycle and to help with prolactin levels. Do not depend on vitb6 as your only ways of dealing with progestogen related gyno.

    Cycle looks good. Good luck and be safe!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMudMan
    You could wait to use the nolva if you feel that you are seeing estrogen related sides...... The vitb6 is a good idea to run in the cycle and to help with prolactin levels. Do not depend on vitb6 as your only ways of dealing with progestogen related gyno.

    Cycle looks good. Good luck and be safe!
    will nolva and b6 get me by?

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    Nolva will help with estrogen related sides from the prop and the B6 will help keep prolactin levels low from the fina. Most likely you will not see gyno from the fina but I always like to be safe. I have pergolide on hand to use just incase there's a problem.

    Check your PM.

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    make sure those bastards remember to add the extra tests you request for. mine left off one and now i gotta wait another few days before i start my cycle. just wanna be extra sure.

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    Very very very few people get gyno from fina, and i'm willing to bet a lot of the supposed fina gyno cases are actually caused by something else in the cycle. All the same, i heard something about bromo (if you decide to get it) and nolva at the same time, that these two have an interraction... let me see if i can find that.
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    here we are..

    If Nolvadex is taken with certain other drugs, the effects of either could be increased, decreased, or altered. It is especially important to check with your doctor before combining Nolvadex with the following:
    Aminoglutethimide (Cytadren )
    Blood-thinning drugs such as Coumadin
    Bromocriptine (Parlodel)
    Cancer drugs such as Cytoxan
    Letrozole (Femara)
    Phenobarbital
    Rifampin (Rifadin)

    http://www.healthsquare.com/newrx/nol1299.htm

    Not sure exactly what happens, but i figured people should hear about this.

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    I'm glad your still with us bro!!! Be safe!

    BLT

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    shoot that shit ED bro. I started with eod injections but I love ED sooo much more. maybe its in my head but I just feel so excited on injection days. I love the needle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by symatech
    shoot that shit ED bro. I started with eod injections but I love ED sooo much more. maybe its in my head but I just feel so excited on injection days. I love the needle.
    I need to be cost effective, thats why I'm considering EOD still.

    For BDTR and everyone else in this thread:
    Considering I'm low on money, would it be smart to just do 75mg prop and fina every other day, or do half the amount of each everyday instead? I'm not afraid of everyday injections, so I was wondering if just doing half the amount of each would keep levels more consistent? This is why I originally posted "50 mg everyday of each" thought...

    more feedback please guys.
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    bippity bumpity boo

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    I got my bloodwork back, bastards did not check for test levels like i asked. Ima go back in free of charge though soon since they screwed up

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    Quote Originally Posted by bdtr
    bump the prop to 75mg and it looks good.
    Really glad to see you are okay bro.....hope there are no lingering effects and that you will get back on track shortly...

    I agree with bdtr you need to increase the dosage from 50mgs to 75 or 100mg and of course make sure you have adequate anti-estrogens and post cycle..

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    Yor doses should be OK but for maximum results I'd do 75mg ed if you can afford it. Fina is cheap if you can run that at 75mg ed and test prop at 50mg ed should be enough to keep your libido going and get decent results. I've done exactly that for 8 weeks and made noticable gains in muscle and strength.

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    Quote Originally Posted by markas214
    Yor doses should be OK but for maximum results I'd do 75mg ed if you can afford it. Fina is cheap if you can run that at 75mg ed and test prop at 50mg ed should be enough to keep your libido going and get decent results. I've done exactly that for 8 weeks and made noticable gains in muscle and strength.
    I basically have 20ml fina and 30ml prop, both 100mg each, to work with. This being my 2nd cycle only and only at 200lbs 6'2 this should suffice? What do you guys think would be the best way? I like BDTR's suggestion, i just gotta be cost effective with what i got. My buddy from the gym just used 20ml fina and 30ml prop and gained a nice 25 lbs and kept 17 of it.. but hes not been coming into the gym so havent got to ask how he ran it?

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