wild muscle gain

**fuxuup** · 10-20-2003, 12:05 AM

I was wondering if any of you know a badass stack
for about 20-30 lbs of solid quality muscle.
first time user
age 22
190lbs
10% bf.

**Gear** · 10-20-2003, 12:37 AM

Hey bro, I see you are 22, thats probably the minumum age I would take gear at. First of all, make sure you know all about steroids , what it is, how it works, how much to take etc etc. Then make sure your diet is spot on also. Diet plays a very important role especially when cycling. You wanna do a "badass stack"? I am assuming you wanna do a heavy cycle as you wanna put on some serious weight. Well it is your 1st time so just take it easy, it all takes time. Dont do a real heavy cycle yet. You could try something like this....

30mg Dianabol p/day week 1 - 4
500mg test Ena p/week week 1 - 12
400mg deca p/week

have clomid on hand, and maybe some nolvadex incase

good luck

P.S if u have just started training, i wood recomend training naturally for a few yrs at least b4 joining the darkside

**ENraged** · 10-20-2003, 04:17 AM

or Being as it is your first cycle you could just run some test
first cycle from what i have seen is normally recommend as a pure test cycle. Run a search on first cycles

**Gear** · 10-20-2003, 04:27 AM

ENraged is right, test only cycle is also a great novice cycle. Something i 4got 2 mention :P. Peace

**groverman1** · 10-20-2003, 07:07 AM

Test cylce is what 90% say that's what I'm doing bro I'm gonna keep posting progress

**01dragonslayer** · 10-20-2003, 07:25 AM

Originally Posted by fuxuup

I was wondering if any of you know a badass stack
for about 20-30 lbs of solid quality muscle.
first time user
age 22
190lbs
10% bf.

Whats the big rush bro? 20-30lbs for a newbie? Slow down my friend. Most of the anabolics needed for that dramatic increase in mass are not recommended for a first time user. Besides that your gains will be very hard to retain. Take it easy. A simple test e/EQ stack would be optimal for a newbie. You'll pack on 10-15lbs(depending on your diet and training habits) of quality muscle. You really can't just jump in head first with this stuff.

**cfiler** · 10-20-2003, 12:40 PM

Just run test and d-bol.

They are supposed to be the best stack for a first timer.

**fuxuup** · 10-20-2003, 12:58 PM

what about some sust and some eq?
I want to cut down to about 5-6% bf and
then I want every thing after that to be solid
with as little fat as possible.

**Testify** · 10-20-2003, 12:58 PM

I would go with Test E alone for 10 weeks. For a first cycle, there is no need to do more. If you pump your body up with a large quantity of hormones to begin with, it will only take more (read: more $) to realize gains in the future. A Test E or Cyp alone cycle should give you a nice 15 or so pounds, if your diet, training and PCT are in tune.

It sounds like you have a lot of reading to do before jumping into a cycle. Hang around here for a few months, and read everything you can. Educate yourself, and avoid making a careless mistake.

**01dragonslayer** · 10-20-2003, 04:06 PM

Originally Posted by fuxuup

what about some sust and some eq?
I want to cut down to about 5-6% bf and
then I want every thing after that to be solid
with as little fat as possible.

Wks 1-11 500mg Test E
Wks 1-10 400mg EQ
Start clomid 2wks after last shot of test at 300mg 1st day; 100mg/ED days 2-11; and 50mg/ED days 12-21. Take .5mg liquidex ED until the end of PCT and have your nolva on hand. Train hard and eat clean.