BigKev = Scammer

[G-S]

BigKev was accused of scamming here at AR when he was a MOD, some 2 years ago. Well, he did it again, but this time I have the proof.

He set up a fake email account to make himself appear as Shanghailabs. He spelled shanghailabs as "shangailabs", without the H. He referred ateast 2 members of my board that I am aware of to this addy. Only one ordered, thank god, and I have the emails between them. Emails from BigKev's hotmail account, and from the FAKE SL account he made. When the member questioned BigKev about SL not sending his stuff, Kev said that SL had told him he was having problems with his remailer. SL has never used a remailer, past, present, or future.

Here are the emails -

[G-S]

"big kev ." <[email protected]> wrote:
i will definately give you notice on when i am coming bro.

i have been using sl for about a year. he has complained about the remailer
before, i think its some family m,ember or something/ he needs to shit can
the guy becauise i think he is ripping him off. if he is mailing the 2nd
order direct its coming tstraight from sl so it will be in route for sure.
dont worry bro, it will get there.


>From: Brandon

>To: [email protected]
>Subject: HEY BIGKEV
>Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 11:32:28 -0800 (PST)
>
>Kev
>That sounds good Just let me know a couple of days in advance when your
>coming to Houston & I'll line us out some fun.
>Man Im starting to get nervous about my orders. Im out $1200.00
>SL said the second order (Tren ,T3,Test) from Oct.20th would be here by
>Nov.1 & it still hasnt showed.He said he resent the first order
>(Andarol,Omna,Clomid, Winntabs)direct.
>so it should be here this week or the first part of next week.
>I think his remailer needs to get his/her shit together.!
>How long you been using SL .?
>Let me what you think Bro,
>Brandon.
>
>
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[G-S]

He sent me back an email confirming what you said that he was fixing the problem asap! & he didnt think my 2nd order would get to me either so he is resending in the a.m. & he through in 20ml of EQ 250mg & some clen . for my troubles. I told him he didnt have to if he didnt want to.I told him I will still do alot of bussiness with him he just has to get his remailer in check.(STOMP that ass!) Man get to houston for my Bday @ Splendor (Boobie bar) on dec 12th...lots of naked females! let me know Bro.
Brandon

"big kev ." <[email protected]> wrote:
its fucked up for sure daddio, i sent sl an email and told him he needs to
check his remailer, he sent me one back saying that he has been thinking the
same thing and was going to take care of the prob. he cant have shit like
that going on it will cost him alot of buisiness. he will get it taken care
of, i have no doubt. he is a little asian guy, and you know they hold on to
there cash real tight. LOL


>From: Brandon

>To: [email protected]
>Subject: Kev
>Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 13:21:21 -0800 (PST)
>
>Hey Kev
>Question could there possibly something else besides his remailer that
>could stop me from getting both packages? I still haven't got the second
>(Tren ,T3,Test)order from Oct 20 that he said I would get by Nov.1.This
>sucks Dude! He ought to use my address as the return address to!
>Let me know if there is anything I can do.
>Later
>Brandon
>
>
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[TheMudMan]

did u run this by a mod before posting this?

[G-S]

Here was the second order.
(4) MexVet Test Prop 100mg/10ml
(2) Amer.Research TechFina Tren Acetate 100mg/20ml
(200tabs) Cynomel T3 25 mcg

You dont have to but if you want
throw in (2) ShanghaiLabs EQ 250mg/10ml & Clenbuterol
Thanks Man,I hope you get everything straight w/your remailer I hate to see you lose bussiness..STOMP that ass!


shangailabs wrote:
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I am pretty sure I sent it through the remailer Brandon, I get so busy
that its hard to keep up. I think the problem lie's in my organization,
I am taking steps to remedy it as we speak. I am going to re-send the
second package as I have reason to believe it wasnt shipped from the
remailer. I cant tell you how sorry I am that your first 2 orders got
caught up in this, but I assure you I will make the wait worth your wild.
Send me a complete copy of your second order and your shipping address.
I will include $150 worth of products in addition to the order you have
already paid for, free of charge. Look over my list and choose what you
would like and I will include it in the this shipment, which leave directly
from here. Get back to me ASAP.

On Wed, 05 Nov 2003 15:05:43 -0800 Brandon

wrote:
>Hey Bro,
>When you sent my second order (Tren,T3,Test) on Oct.20th The one
>you said should be here by Nov.1 did you send it through your remailer
>or direct? That one is still not here
>I caught my mailman today & He said he hasnt seen any boxes for
>me & if he did he'd put them on my porch.Is there anything I can
>do to make sure I get these What about using my address as the return
>address also? or sending it somewhere else.Just let me know what
>I can do.
>Thanks Man ,
>Brandon.
>
>
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[G-S]

Yes, this has been approved. THanks, but I have my shit in order.

Approved by Ironforlife

[G-S]

hanks again Bro..Like I said your good w/me & you'll keep getting my bussiness I just wanted to be sure the shipping thing was all good for future orders,
Ill let you know when it gets here.
Brandon
shangailabs wrote:
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Hash: SHA1

Your order is already packed with the extra goodies in it, no problem
at all.

On Wed, 05 Nov 2003 18:23:49 -0800 Brandon Turner

wrote:
>SL
>I appreciate it & Dont sweat it. I'll continue to give you alot
>of bussiness Im just glad you got it straight so you dont lose any
>more money!
>And like I said you dont have to throw in the extra stuff If you
>dont want..Your already good w/me Bro!.
>Brandon
>
>shangailabs@ wrote:
>-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>Hash: SHA1
>
>I will have it in the mail to you in the morning.
>
>I just cant understand how some people think, you extend a hand
>to help
>them and they bite it. Now he will be back having nothing.
>
>Once again Brandon, I am sorry for the mix up, but it is taken care
>of
>now. Your extra supplies are going to be included and it will be
>there
>in 7-10 days.
>
>On Wed, 05 Nov 2003 16:34:35 -0800 Brandon Turner
>
>wrote:
>>Here was the second order.
>>(4) MexVet Test Prop 100mg/10ml
>>(2) Amer.Research TechFina Tren Acetate 100mg/20ml
>>(200tabs) Cynomel T3 25 mcg
>>
>>You dont have to but if you want
>> throw in (2) ShanghaiLabs EQ 250mg/10ml & Clenbuterol
>>Thanks Man,I hope you get everything straight w/your remailer I
>>hate to see you lose bussiness..STOMP that ass!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>shangailabs@ wrote:
>>-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>>Hash: SHA1
>>
>>I am pretty sure I sent it through the remailer Brandon, I get
>so
>>busy
>>that its hard to keep up. I think the problem lie's in my organization,

>>
>>
>>>
>>I am taking steps to remedy it as we speak. I am going to re-send
>>the
>>second package as I have reason to believe it wasnt shipped from
>>the
>>remailer. I cant tell you how sorry I am that your first 2 orders
>>got
>>caught up in this, but I assure you I will make the wait worth
>your
>>wild.
>>Send me a complete copy of your second order and your shipping
>address.
>>I will include $150 worth of products in addition to the order
>you
>>have
>>already paid for, free of charge. Look over my list and choose
>what
>>you
>>would like and I will include it in the this shipment, which leave
>>directly
>>from here. Get back to me ASAP.
>>
>>On Wed, 05 Nov 2003 15:05:43 -0800 Brandon Turner
>>
>>wrote:
>>>Hey Bro,
>>>When you sent my second order (Tren,T3,Test) on Oct.20th The one
>>>you said should be here by Nov.1 did you send it through your
>remailer
>>>or direct? That one is still not here
>>>I caught my mailman today & He said he hasnt seen any boxes for
>>>me & if he did he'd put them on my porch.Is there anything I can
>>>do to make sure I get these What about using my address as the
>>return
>>>address also? or sending it somewhere else.Just let me know what
>>>I can do.
>>>Thanks Man ,
>>>Brandon.
>>>
>>>
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[BDTR]

It's been approved on several other boards as well, and 100% true sadly.

[G-S]

Here is a PM from sinjin2030 -

Freakz Newbie

Posts: 7

Joined: Oct 2003

Status: ONLINE


HIS EMAIL IS SHANGAILABS@ & I WESTERN UNIONED THE FUNDS TO WILLIAM GOSS ELM MOTT TEXAS & TEST QUESTION WAS "WHO IS MY FAVORITE ACTOR...VIN DIESEL
BRO IM NOT BULLSHITTING YOU BIGKEV EVEN SAID HE HAD A REMAILER & SO DID SHANG I STILL HAVE THE EMAILS I THINK.
wHAT ELSE DO YOU WANT TO KNOW I HAVE THE MONEY TRANSFER# DATES,AMOUNT EVERYTHING.
LET ME KNOW.
BRANDON

[G-S]

BigKev's ** addy's -

152.163.252.104 (cache-rf08.proxy.aol.com) [find more users for this **]
152.163.252.200 (cache-rk08.proxy.aol.com) [find more users for this **]
152.163.252.228 (cache-rl04.proxy.aol.com) [find more users for this **]
205.188.208.139 (cache-dg07.proxy.aol.com) [find more users for this **]
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205.188.209.37 (cache-dl01.proxy.aol.com) [find more users for this **]
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[TheMudMan]

WOW............... shame.

[G-S]

Once again, let me reiterate, SL has NEVER used a remailer as BigKev, and the FAKE SL claimed.

NEVER.

Many of you know that BigKev's girlfriend is also a MOD on many boards. He claims they split up 2 weeks ago. I have no proof that she is involved in this in anyway, and I hope she isn't.

[G-S]

PM From BigKev to another member at our board -

good deal bro. ppl have gotten far to brazen, you know what that leads to in this game.whats up double j? i read your thread on ppl. i cant really say in open forum because they sponsor us, but bro, that company is going to go down and i wouldnt for any reason connect myself to them in any way. they openly advertise and everyone knows the real deal, the feds arent stupid by a long shot. their(ppl) products arent all they are cracked up to be anyway. stay far away from that mess.

i have seen you around the board bro and if you would like i can connect you to a good domestic guy that most of us use, just please keep that and what i told you about ppl between us, thats all i ask in return. just let me know bro. BK


i am going to connect you to the guy most of us mods here use. the addy is shangailabs@ tell him your name here and that i sent you. he is probably the best source i have ever used. all i ask is that you keep it to yourself and dont pass the addy out.

i will definately check out the thread bro and let you know what i think. if there is ever anything i can do for you just ask. BK

[daWhoady]

ah damnit

[FrkyBgStok]

that sucks.

[50%Natural]

What a great example that guy set.

[LORDBLiTZ]

WTF? That's crazy!!!

[956Vette]

Thanks G-S

[BigMike J]

bump

[LightWeightBaby]

that really does suck

[nevaenuf]

I dont even understand how someone can do this kind of dirty sh*t.

[Cycleon]

I double approve that and post what I did on freakz:

Well - I am sure many of you know that we retired him from AR a year ago for this very reason but didnt open it up to everyone because we didnt have absolute proof. Those who mod on AR know that I gave him EVERY opportunity and backed him (as I would with all of our mods) even though he personally was always trying to be pissy with me.

Back at that time on AR (where he got his start) he was directing people to a source - BigSean - then "that guy" whom all suspect was BK or his partner went south and BK dodged everyone for as long as he could and then said he BK was in jail and that he would make up any problems personally for Seans scam - and then he never did. We just had no proof that BK was Sean although the addresses were very close.

He also physically threatened our admin, ptbyjason several times - who lived not too far from him at that time.

more on the origional story...and there is more yet that can be available

http://www.anabolicreview.com/vbulle...bigkev+scammer

http://www.anabolicreview.com/vbulle...bigkev+scammer

who is his new girl? used to be jenna long ago

[DADDYDBOL]

I have heard stories about "Big Kev" from quite a few boys that are actually looking for him now. Yall know who you are and I'm watching too...........

What it boils down to is what goes around comes around and Kev I have a feeling yours is coming.

[DADDYDBOL]

I think Jenna got fed up with him but I might be able to find out, if I do I'll pm you CYCLEON.

[trimunex]

Some people just don't learn, you figure he'd try to clean up after the first incident.

[Cycleon]

jenna was fed up long ago I thought - he threated to harm her as well - thought it was someone new - he is a 2x felon or so is said - both on violent crimes - bad temper and loses control.

I honestly hoped he would have went strait but it really does seem once a scammer....

[PTbyJason]

I'm ALMOST positive that Jenna is no longer with him. I haven't talked to her in a long time though.

I can't add anything to this that hasn't been said already. Cycleon pretty much covered everything.

[D3m3nt3d]

Damn...I always looked up to BigKev too...shitty

[tmeoe]

All this goes to show you how hard it is to trust someone online, with that said i'm still waiting for my order (not from BK) and it worries me that at any point you can get scammed.

Let this be a lesson to all those newbies who have been asking for sources openly on the board

Its a shame to hear something like this!!!

[DADDYDBOL]

She had said he was living with her and that it wasn't going to last or something to that affect but good for her. She deserved better.

[Screenz]

damn theres 16 people looking at this thread right now!

[groverman1]

Damn shame

[anabolicturbina]

scammmers need to go to hell.....

[DADDYDBOL]

Would it be against the law to post pics so everybody down here knows what he looks like?

[Da Bull]

This is F'd up!!!!!!

[sp9]

Unbelievable. I was around when the prior incident happened but wasn't in the know on the real deal. I honestly am shocked. I would have been easily fooled by him at the time.

I can imagine how many people were out money. A shame.

[MR PHATT ASS]

....i noticed in these e mails that there are these words before the beginning on some e mails..its-->Hash : SHA1 what does that messege mean??.the reason i ask is because i'm now deals with a 'BRO' locally through a good dude...and in his emails that 'Hash SHA1' is in there.with this scammer report going on i just wonder if i should be cautious..the local 'BRO' has hushmail, so do I and looks like these emails have the same...

[BDTR]

The has sha1 is the encryption with hushmail and simialr email programs. Dont worry about it.

[MR PHATT ASS]

The has sha1 is the encryption with hushmail and simialr email programs. Dont worry about it.

...thanx BDTR.....it just seems kinda ironic to see that in my email then to see it again in this scammer report.which btw is sad cause big kev has help me in the past.....unreal man....

[G-S]

We now have 4 members who have all sent over 500 to the fake addy Kev set up. I'm sure there are more.

None of them bothered to cross check with another MOD.