first cycle guys, lil help

[dalcowbag]

this is gonna be my first cycle, nothing major, but its a start:

weeks 1-8
200 mg test prop E3D
weeks4-8
100 mg test cyp E5D

do i really need an anti-e for this, and if so, will nething over the counter work?

age-20
6'
196lbs
BF-10%


thanks for your help

[abstrack]

the cycle sizzzuks, do some more research and wait ahwhile

[DARKSEID]

[QUOTE=dalcowbag]this is gonna be my first cycle, nothing major, but its a start:

weeks 1-8
200 mg test prop E3D
weeks4-8
100 mg test cyp E5D

do i really need an anti-e for this, and if so, will nething over the counter work?

age-20
6'
196lbs
BF-10%


Do alittle more research, that's not a good cycle at all. Yes you do need anti-e's, and no over the counter stuff is not a substitute.

[THE PUMP]

Cycle looks crap bro just run test enth for 10-12 weeks at 500mg and a simple pct.

[Mr. Death]

Cycle looks crap bro just run test enth for 10-12 weeks at 500mg and a simple pct.

I agree. Also, use a real anti-e, not something over the counter.

[Shud]

Cycle looks crap bro just run test enth for 10-12 weeks at 500mg and a simple pct.

agree aswell man....
dont need the prop...only first cycle....stick with test-e like The Pump said.... clomid and nolva PCT and the nolva on hand

[TOMMY-GUNN]

imho guys, i think its a bit harsh to tell this guy that his cycle sucks or it is crap....i dont want to start any arguments or anything, but, everyone always preaches about this site being one of the best anabolic steroid sites on the internet. i think you guys could put "sizzzucks" or "crap" in less harsh terms. we dont want anyone thinking this board is full of rude, harsh members....jmho

[TOMMY-GUNN]

this is not to say i think the cycle looks good. it definately needs some work.

[abstrack]

imho guys, i think its a bit harsh to tell this guy that his cycle sucks or it is crap....i dont want to start any arguments or anything, but, everyone always preaches about this site being one of the best anabolic steroid sites on the internet. i think you guys could put "sizzzucks" or "crap" in less harsh terms. we dont want anyone thinking this board is full of rude, harsh members....jmho

there is nothing wrong with telling him the cycle sizuuuks or is crap, it is IMHO. what I dont understand why you would support someone at the age of 20 doing any AAS???

in no way has anybody flammed the guy, he is 20yrs old and uneducated about what he is about to do to himself. Regardless of age, the layout of the cycle sucks and there needs to be some more research done.

[moush]

no way man you are too young....stick around the board talk to some of the guys here, post your questions and in about a yr or so you can do a real good beginners cycle...

[Lostsoul]

Cycle looks crap bro just run test enth for 10-12 weeks at 500mg and a simple pct.

Sounds good to me, thats all you need for a first cycle, you'll need anti-e's on that cycle tho.

What you can do though if you dont have access to nolva or arimidex is use Flax Seeds, NOT the oil, grind the seeds with a pestle and mortar and use it as a spread or something, that's a very good anti-e, just as effective as nolva.

Just dont use bottled flax oil because the chemical that has the anti-e property is manufactured out when they make the oil.

[Swellin]

im 19 and im gonna start my cycle in a few days, i dont belive im too young, ill bet my diet and training are 95% better than the majority of people who work out and or juice.

Your diet and training don't have the first thing to do with you being too young!
Premature closure of the epiphysial (sp) growth plates, damgae to an as of yet underdeveloped endocrine system, damage to your testes.........these are reasons that YOU ARE TOO YOUNG!

It is your health in consideration, not your knowledge or commitment.
Both of you have some natural growing left....wait a while before you screw that up.

[abstrack]

already 6'1, dont wanna get any taller, consulted my doctor had my blood tested, she will be monitoring me throughout the cycle

CONGRADULATIONS :spudnikbi you're are ready then....

[dalcowbag]

lostsoul.....usaid too use flax seeds as an anti-e, ne advice on how much? ne input at all thanks.

and too all u d!cks bashing that cycle, its a first cycle and its fine for what it is, and that would be 5-10lbs in weight gain

[Ju-tang]

Yeah this cycle really does suck

[TOMMY-GUNN]

abstrack.....first, i never said i agreed or disagreed with him doing any cycle. secondly, i just said that postive, curteous replies will ggo a lot farther than calling his cycle sh it...

[tmeoe]

That cycle isn't laid out very well, I'm sure you might see some gains from it, but wouldn't you rather get optimum gains from your cycle. It is you who has to spend the money on AAS, so i would want the most out of it.

This sounds like this is your first cycle, and at 20 you might be to young, but thats not gonna stop you. Just be mature about your decisions with the use of AAS. Don't think that these guys are dicks because they don't like your cycle, most of these bros are here to help you so you don't hurt yourself.

Try this cycle for first time:

wk 1-10 250mgs/wk enanthate
wk 12-15 Clomid 100mgs ed/ 28 days
*nolva on hand

[Swellin]

lostsoul.....usaid too use flax seeds as an anti-e, ne advice on how much? ne input at all thanks.

and too all u d!cks bashing that cycle, its a first cycle and its fine for what it is, and that would be 5-10lbs in weight gain

That is certainly the way to garner support and gain friendly advice.

Why post, you obviously don't give a **** what anybody has to say?

There are hundreds of first cycles laid out on here...alll you have to do is search. Take a look at the sticky by Ron at the top of this forum. That is a perfect place to start. Your current cycle, is not exactly well planned....continue to look arounf at others' cycles.

Tmeoe told you a fine one, but I would probably still run the clomid at 300/100/50 instead.

There it is...what will you do with it?

[tmeoe]

Tmeoe told you a fine one, but I would probably still run the clomid at 300/100/50 instead.

Thanks bro, I don't like doing the 300/100/50 with clomid because of the vision problems it gives me. I took Pheednos advice about the 100mgs ed for 28 days, its a longer PCT but helps with the vision.

[abstrack]

abstrack.....first, i never said i agreed or disagreed with him doing any cycle. secondly, i just said that postive, curteous replies will ggo a lot farther than calling his cycle sh it...

stop crying...

[TOMMY-GUNN]

hahaha...alright im gonna drop it now