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01-24-2004, 10:24 AM #1
All This **** Info Is Killing Me.
Im So **** Confused Now, I Cant See Straight.
I Have Been Reading And Reading And Reading,and Still Havent Decided What Is Right For Me. I Dont Want To Sound Like I Havent Been Reading The Ed Forum But I Am Still Unclear.
I Will Give It Another Shot.
Im 25 Years Old, I Weigh 220 Lbs 5'10" Body Fat Around 20%
Its Been Seven Years Since The Last Time I Have Lifted A Weight. My Genetics Are Great I Still Have A Lot Of Muscle Memory.
My Goal- Mass,strength,lean Muscle.
My Cycle "please Critique And Offer Better Solutions To My Goals.
1-5 100/mg D-bol Per Week
3-8 400 Mg Test En. Per Week
Now Here Is Where The Contoversy Comes In Some Says Tamoto Some Say Tamato
When Can I Start My Shed The Fat, Put On Lean Muscle Mass Cycle?
My Plan Is Simple For The Losong Body Fat And Adding Lean Mass
Eq And Winny
400/mg Eq Per Week
50 Mg Of Winny Tabs Per Day.
As Far As Post Cycle Therapy , Poeple Blurt Out So Much Crap I Dont Know Which One To Do.
Please Help,thanks
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01-24-2004, 10:28 AM #2Originally Posted by Bigbowboski
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01-24-2004, 10:29 AM #3
you don't need steroids right now, get to the gym, and diet, get into condition before you start using aas, get your bodyfat down to around 12% and then come back and research some more on aas
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01-24-2004, 10:29 AM #4
Id say you should cut first because 20% bf is way to high to bulk,i dont think you need steroids bro you need to sort out your diet and train hard and do a load of cardio.
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01-24-2004, 11:31 AM #5Originally Posted by THE PUMP
GUYS..I APPOLOGIZE
LET ME CLARIFY A FEW THINGS.
OK NOT REAL SURE ABOUT BF,BUT IM A NATURAL BIG THICK STOCKY GUY, SOLID. i HAVE BEEN DOING CARDIO AND DOING THE NO CARB DIET FOR THE LAST 3 MONTHS. I WENT FROM 238 TO A LITTLE UNDER 220. IT HAS NEVER REALLY TAKEN ME LONG TO SHED SOME FAT. MY STRENGTH HAS DRAMATICLY INCREASED IN THE LAST 3 MONTHS AS WELL. WHEN I STATED HAVENT TOUCHED THE WEIGHTS IN 7 YEARS, THAT MEANT BEFORE I STARTED TRAINING "3 MONTHS AGO" SORRY I LEFT THAT ONE OUT. I TRAIN VERY HARD. SOME OG THE GUYS LAST NIGHT EVEN MADE THE COMMENT THAT "IF I TRAIN WITH YOU LIKE THIS ALL THE TIME I WILL EXPLODE" AND THIS GUYS CYCLE AND ARE VERY NICE SIZED BOYS. I DONT PLAY WHEN I TRAIN.
SO IF THIS CLARIFIES ANYTHING PLEASE LET ME KNOW.
OH YEA WHAT IS WRONG WITH MY CYCLE
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01-24-2004, 11:34 AM #6Originally Posted by Bigbowboski
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01-24-2004, 11:38 AM #7Originally Posted by asymmetrical1
OK ARE YOU SAYING TO LAY OFF OF MY CYCLE?
I STARTED WITH THE TEST YESTERDAY?
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01-24-2004, 11:40 AM #8Originally Posted by Bigbowboski
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01-24-2004, 11:45 AM #9Originally Posted by Bigbowboski
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01-24-2004, 11:55 AM #10Originally Posted by asymmetrical1
Sorry for the caps
my diet now consist of a little over 4000 calories/day
carbs around 100
protein...hmm i shake every 3 hours but most importantly its egg whites, oatmel, fish,chicken,chops and steak. brown rice, tuna etc..and water, a few diet drinks. basically if i have an empty spot in my stomach i fill it.
ok i will hit the gym for 2 to 3 more months work it naturaly then hit a cycle for cutting, and i will research.
oh yea any problems with my diet
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01-24-2004, 12:02 PM #11Originally Posted by Bigbowboski
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01-24-2004, 12:17 PM #12Originally Posted by chrisAdams
ok
oatmel egg in the morning 8.00am
water
tuna creations 2 packs about 11.00am
protein shake to drink
baked broiled or grilled chicken
sweet potato
diet cherry coke 2.00pm
protein shake
venison jerky to snack on 3.00pm
brown rice, mushrooms,different veggies with pork chops or steak
water to drink 6.00pm
shake, tuna creations "smoked" with ramen noodle noodles minus the seasoning. diet cherry coke
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01-24-2004, 12:32 PM #13Originally Posted by Bigbowboski
You need to more meals in there, a pre workout and a post workout. Pre workout you want to have around 25 grams of protien, and around 50 grams of complex carbs. Post workout, 25 grams protien, 50 grams simple sugar like dextrose. Then 2 hours later you eat your dinner/next big meal.
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