Test CYP, Decca, DBOL

**speedtraining** · 03-01-2004, 11:42 PM

My cycle is as follows:

Test Cyp 1-12 400mg/wk broken into two shots mon thurs of 200mg
Decca 1-10 200mg/wk
Dbol 1-4 25mg/ed

Nolva 10mg/ed do I have to start this right away or can i wait till like the third week...
Clomid 18days after last shot of cyp:
day1 300mg
days2-11 100mg ed
days12-21 50mg ed

An using b6 at 400mg/ed to combat any gyno from the prized decca, don't think I will have anytho at 200mg/wk.

I'm 6'2 225lb Bench: 335 right now, Deadlift: 450 just to give you an idea i'm a football player and I was hurt just getting past my third week of lifting again now. Can I expect people to be able to tell that I'm on something am I going to get gigantic? If so whats your thoughts on gains...my diet will be unrivaled theres no problem there and training i never mess around..Hit me with some thoughts fellas...

SPEED.

**PiecinItUp** · 03-01-2004, 11:45 PM

is this your first cycle bro?

**speedtraining** · 03-01-2004, 11:47 PM

I did the most retarted cycle of decca and sust..before that I refuse to state..but this would be my second...I've been working on planning this out now for a pretty long time...

Originally Posted by PiecinItUp

is this your first cycle bro?

**PiecinItUp** · 03-01-2004, 11:51 PM

I would think you would see some pretty intense gains and a lot of bloat, Maybe ad some arimidex to cut that down and keep down suspicion. When you say your a football player is it college or what and do you have to worry about getting tested?

**speedtraining** · 03-01-2004, 11:53 PM

Yes I'm heading into division 1...I will find a way around test...Most likely redshirting first year anyways hahaha...Will the bloat be that bad with dbol ? for only 4 wks?

**PiecinItUp** · 03-01-2004, 11:57 PM

I experienced it....but on the other hand I think what you have sounds good to me....again I would add arimidex but thats just me, anyone else comment if im missing anything....

**speedtraining** · 03-02-2004, 12:02 AM

I just checked out some prices...Arimerex was really expensive...Am i seeing the right prices..If so the bloat will decrease fast after the 4th week when the dbol ends...?

**PiecinItUp** · 03-02-2004, 12:06 AM

Test and Deca will also add bloat....don't think it will decrease it....You did say you were taking nolva all throughout?

**Consistency** · 03-02-2004, 12:06 AM

yes you will lose a little water once you are off the dbols... why dont you run some liquidex throughout to keep bloat down..

**PiecinItUp** · 03-02-2004, 12:07 AM

increase the nolva to 20mg/ed and start day one and the boating won't be as bad if you had nothing.

**speedtraining** · 03-02-2004, 12:08 AM

never heard of it till just now i seen the arimex was rediculously priced...Can't you naturally stop bloat???Yes I was wondering do I have to run the nolva right from the beginning??

**speedtraining** · 03-02-2004, 12:09 AM

bloat caused by estrogen?

Originally Posted by PiecinItUp

increase the nolva to 20mg/ed and start day one and the boating won't be as bad if you had nothing.

**PiecinItUp** · 03-02-2004, 12:11 AM

Yes from start through PCT....naturally stop bloat...hmmmm good question....hope someone jumps in here and helps me on this one...I've heard of staying away from high sodium content in your diet.

**speedtraining** · 03-02-2004, 12:15 AM

Take the nolva right to the end of the clomid? I think i heard that Patcieum (in bannanas) can reduce water retention? I know to stay away from sodium as all the fball players we use salt tabs and tomatoe juice to hold water in the summer training so we don't cramp.

Originally Posted by PiecinItUp

Yes from start through PCT....naturally stop bloat...hmmmm good question....hope someone jumps in here and helps me on this one...I've heard of staying away from high sodium content in your diet.