how much HCG does it take to down reg LH sensitivity

**marineone** · 03-18-2004, 10:40 PM

took my last shot of EQ 21 days ago from a 12 wk test/EQ cycle. I have heard different things about HCG use along with clomid PCT. I have plenty of Nolvadex which i have been taking all along. I also have clomid and hcg. My nads shrunk about 50 percent or so. What would be the best use of the hcg and clomid, i dont want to worry about down reg the sensitivity. In the Anabolics 2000 book it says to start with around 1500-5000iu every 4 days with clomid for a month gradually decreasing the hcg over 4 shots. help me out thanks.

***asymmetrical1*** · 03-18-2004, 10:44 PM

Originally Posted by marineone

took my last shot of EQ 21 days ago from a 12 wk test/EQ cycle. I have heard different things about HCG use along with clomid PCT. I have plenty of Nolvadex which i have been taking all along. I also have clomid and hcg. My nads shrunk about 50 percent or so. What would be the best use of the hcg and clomid, i dont want to worry about down reg the sensitivity. In the Anabolics 2000 book it says to start with around 1500-5000iu every 4 days with clomid for a month gradually decreasing the hcg over 4 shots. help me out thanks.

do not run hcg now with your clomid and nolv.....run your 21 day pct, then if your boys aren't back, hit the hcg....500iu or 1000iu sat/aun
1500-5000iu would cause an estrogen surge

**marineone** · 03-18-2004, 10:52 PM

So start clomid at 300/100/50 and Nolv. at 20-40mg a day for 21 days, then if they arent back use the hcg @ 1000iu a day. In the cycles i have done in the past, i followed what the anabolics 2000 said and did 2500iu day 1 and every 4th day then clomid with it. Seemed to work OK but i did notice my estrogen level high when i did it. After reading some of the threads on PCT and how its pointless to run clomid and HCG together I was getting freaked out cuz in the past i have done it the other way and didnt know if i down reg'd my boys or not?

***asymmetrical1*** · 03-18-2004, 10:57 PM

yeah, run the clomid the way you have it, and the nolv at 20mg....running hcg with clomid will bring the boys back, but will not bring your natty test back

**marineone** · 03-18-2004, 10:59 PM

thanks for the help ASYM. by the way just noticed your arm is huge bro. Do you think those shots of 2500iu's i did in the past did anything to down reg the boys or does it take alot more than that?

***asymmetrical1*** · 03-18-2004, 11:03 PM

Originally Posted by marineone

thanks for the help ASYM. by the way just noticed your arm is huge bro. Do you think those shots of 2500iu's i did in the past did anything to down reg the boys or does it take alot more than that?

tks bro.....probabaly not....after you finish pct, it would be a good idea to have some bloodwork done and see where you are at....know that's a pain in the @ss, and I don't do it as much as I should, but it's really necessary

**marineone** · 03-18-2004, 11:08 PM

thanks, i was freaking out after i read all the posts about down regging the boys. Blood work is a must, I know someone so its not that much of a pain, just got to do it.