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  1. 03-23-2004, 11:08 AM #1
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    few quick important questions about cypionate/enanthate before i start tomorrow(help)

    alright here are my stats
    5'10-185 lbs-7% bodyfat
    age-18, been lifting since i was 13
    ive switched from bodybuilding to powerlifting for a little bit and im tryin to break a regional benchpress record.ive been focusing and whatnot and im pretty determined to do it.by friday i will have my test(he said it would be enanthate or cypionate but esters are pretty close enough so its almost same thing) and i will also have my clomid.alright so heres what i wanted to ask......

    1)right now im holding my weight steady at 185, i have a window of only 10 lbs to gain for powerlifting. no more whatsoever or else i would be out of weightclass.im currently eating around 2200 calories a day and my wieght seems to be holding steady.considering the fact that when on a cycle, you NEED to eat alot, how would i eat while on this cycle?im sayin like, i wanna gain as much quality muscle as i can without the water,so should i bump protein consumption up to around 500 grams a day, adn try to keep my cal count around 3500?

    2)my source is pretty reliable and i trust the stuff is real.i know this question might of been asked before but, if i were to frontload my first shot with about 400mg, and then just run steady at 250 every week, how long untill i see a good kick in strength?not in mass muscle gain, but in strength?i lift around 5 days a week, so hopefully the gear will aid in recovery time.

    3)i know that injection times shouldnt really matter just as long as your consistent, but if i wanted to get the most out of my BENCH, should i do injections maybe a day before bench day or would it be better if i do it in the morning of a ME day(i have contests every wednesday)?

    thanx for any input, im just trying to get the most out of this low dose test cycle.for anyone saying im too young to be doing this, im almost 100% sure my body cannot move past this plateu ive been at.im determined to do this and I AM gonna put my name on the wall of fame this year.
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  2. 03-23-2004, 11:31 AM #2
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    Do you really want to cycle at 18 yrs of age?I'd research further if I were.....you might just change your mind.
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  3. 03-23-2004, 11:33 AM #3
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    i think most people on this board will say your too young to start AS. i would agree and i'm very very gald i didn't start when i was 18, cause i did seroiusly concider it.
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  4. 03-23-2004, 11:39 AM #4
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    I started when I was 19, and I think waiting just a couple years makes a big difference.

    just my opinion bro
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  5. 03-23-2004, 12:40 PM #5
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    nah theres no way im turning back now, ive been researching for a while now and ive made up my mind, i go to state in 5 weeks.
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    Are you happy with your height and build now? because if you start taking AS you may not grow anymore than you are now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by itsallmental
    nah theres no way im turning back now, ive been researching for a while now and ive made up my mind, i go to state in 5 weeks.

    That's a pretty typical response for an eighteen year old kid.

    At age eighteen you have no business juicing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SV-1
    That's a pretty typical response for an eighteen year old kid.

    At age eighteen you have no business juicing.
    who are you to say who has busniss juicing or not.do you have busniss juicing?do you have busniss walking?talking?driving your car to wal mart to pick up a jug of milk?

    im saying RIGHT NOW. weightlifting is my life and it will be forever, yes i am more than happy with my build.

    so is anyone gonna help me or should i just do trial and error by myself cuzz right now that looks like the route im gonna be heading towards....
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    Quote Originally Posted by itsallmental
    do you have busniss juicing?
    Yes. Because I'm educated on the subject. You obviously are not or wouldn't be planning to juice at eighteen, against everyone else's advice.

    Quote Originally Posted by itsallmental
    im saying RIGHT NOW. weightlifting is my life and it will be forever, yes i am more than happy with my build.
    And if you want to have a long and healthy life doing what you love you'll wait, because you're too young and you're gonna fu*k up your body.

    Quote Originally Posted by itsallmental
    so is anyone gonna help me or should i just do trial and error by myself cuzz right now that looks like the route im gonna be heading towards....
    Trial and error sounds good because it's unlikely anyone here is going to help you screw yourself up.


    Do the smart, mature thing and wait a few years.
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  10. 03-23-2004, 01:55 PM #10
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    Hey Buddy, I can tell you that you will prob. gain more that 10 lbs. on that cycle. So if your constricted to not gaining more than 10 lbs you should look at other options than test. I can tell you that it puts the weight on. Im 36 now and I did a cycle (test cyp. only) back when I was 19 and me and my friends didnt know anything about nolva, or clomid hell I dont even know if it was out back then and as far as protein shoot we didnt care. I cant even tell you how intense my workouts were back then but I can tell you that I got huge. At least 20 lbs mass, (I still have the pictures), and we didnt know sh*t back then. Young and dumb and full of cum! I feel pretty stupid knowing now what Ive learned just beeing on this board. Even though the results came out good I could have hurt myself bad. All I can say no one on this site is going to help you because of you age so do alot of your own research and make a list of negatives and positives of doing a cyle at your age and make an educated decision on your own. I can tell you also that 500 grams of protein would be though to do. Im very dedicated to my training right now and I have a problem doing 300 grams a day. Well what ever you decide to do good luck. I know how important it is to accomplish you goals and you will be almost willing to do anything to reach them. Good Luck!
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  11. 03-23-2004, 02:01 PM #11
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    what gains are you honestly expecting to gain after just 5 weeks? Correct me if im wrong, and i may be, but doesnt it take a few weeks to actually start seeing gains from taking just test? I have taken Test with tren and i have taken test/deca and dbol and the best cycle i have taken is the second one. I also took armidex with it...i am still on that cycle, i have like 4 weeks left, i havent really gained much weight, but my bdf% has gone down significantly and my strength has increased sginificantly....research man, this stuff is NO JOKE!
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    Quote Originally Posted by itsallmental
    nah theres no way im turning back now, ive been researching for a while now and ive made up my mind, i go to state in 5 weeks.
    What does that have anything to do with it???? Bro it will just be getting into your system at 5 weeks. Sounds like you did research that only you wanted to hear...
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    18 is a little young, but why hasnt anyone suggested anavar only???

    strength gains, no size....
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    You buy your milk at Wal-Mart ??
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  15. 03-23-2004, 06:37 PM #15
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    You are too young to be doing AS, I will give you no advice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by groverman1
    You are too young to be doing AS, I will give you no advice.
    Same with me
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