all out bulker for september, any oppinions?

**hercules88** · 04-08-2004, 12:30 PM

im getting ready for pct in a couple of weeks so i thought i would plan outmy next one. i like to get a little hear and a little there. then it doesnt seem like alot of money rather than getting everything at once. stats 24 5'7 215lbs 13%bf

i might be able to get a perscription for gh. if that is the case i will run the GH for 5 months. any problems with my age and gh use?

proposed cycle

1-4 prop 100 mg ed
1-20 test e 600 or 700 mg week
1-10 tren either enth or acetate, which ever i can get. 400 mg week
1-16 eq 500 week
hopefully GH weeks 1-20 or longer

or take out tren and eq and replace with decca at 300 or 400 mg a wek for 1-14.

usual pct with nolva and adex, will i need hgc?

what do you guys think??? this will be my first time using tren. i will get more to run like to week 12 if my body reacts well to it.

any input is apreciated.

**Latimus** · 04-08-2004, 12:32 PM

haha how are you going to pull getting a perscription for gh?

**hercules88** · 04-08-2004, 12:32 PM

go to a doctor

**sepjuice** · 04-08-2004, 12:44 PM

thats alot of test per week (including your prop),should run a anti e ed with your cycle.must be nice getting RX some GH...

**PurePower** · 04-08-2004, 12:45 PM

I would keep the tren and the EQ.....Everything else looks nice....Very similar to the cycle im going to be running this winter. I would run the Tren at 525mg a week ( 75mg ED ). You want to shoot it ED. Just my thoughts.

**quebecbulk** · 04-08-2004, 12:45 PM

should be swole after that one!
get the tren enth and the acetate and do a mix, buddy of mine is a big tren user....did this for the first time and it kicked ass( smaller doses but you get the best of both worlds )

Anyways just a suggestion

**hercules88** · 04-08-2004, 12:56 PM

Originally Posted by PurePower

I would keep the tren and the EQ.....Everything else looks nice....Very similar to the cycle im going to be running this winter. I would run the Tren at 525mg a week ( 75mg ED ). You want to shoot it ED. Just my thoughts.

i dosed the tren for the enth ester. but if i run acetate it will definatly be 75 ed.

thanx for the input power

**MBaraso** · 04-08-2004, 01:47 PM

I don't really like that cycle as a bulk...Not saying it won't work cuz it really comes down to your diet but I'd use a different choice of drugs...
Week 1-20 Test Cyp 750mgs
Week 1-15 Deca 400mgs
Week 1-4 Drol 50-75mgs ed
Week 7-17 Tren 75mgs ed
Ldex starting in week 4
Nolva on hand or @ 10-15mgs ed
Hcg 500iu's sat/sun starting in week 14-19
GH all the way thru. 4/5 iu's 5 days a week 2 off.
Extend PCT @ 100mgs ed for 6-8 weeks.

B6 throughout
Ala or MilkT throughout.

**ColdSore** · 04-08-2004, 02:49 PM

Originally Posted by MBaraso

I don't really like that cycle as a bulk...Not saying it won't work cuz it really comes down to your diet but I'd use a different choice of drugs...
Week 1-20 Test Cyp 750mgs
Week 1-15 Deca 400mgs
Week 1-4 Drol 50-75mgs ed
Week 7-17 Tren 75mgs ed
Ldex starting in week 4
Nolva on hand or @ 10-15mgs ed
Hcg 500iu's sat/sun starting in week 14-19
GH all the way thru. 4/5 iu's 5 days a week 2 off.
Extend PCT @ 100mgs ed for 6-8 weeks.

B6 throughout
Ala or MilkT throughout.

i like this...but i like this better

1-4 100mg prop ed
1-17 750mg cyp ew
1-15 400mg Deca ew
7-17 75mg Tren ed
17-20 100mg prop ed

that way you can jump right into your pct instead of having to wait the 3 weeks for the cyp ester to clear...

**MBaraso** · 04-08-2004, 02:55 PM

Yep u can do that too...So many good ways to run a cycle...

**hercules88** · 04-08-2004, 03:38 PM

mbaraso, if you have time can you elaborate as to why you would choose the different chioce of gear?

**hercules88** · 04-08-2004, 07:33 PM

any advice as to GH and my age. Will i beifit from say 4 iu's a day, or should i wait till im older.

**Da Bull** · 04-08-2004, 07:37 PM

Originally Posted by hercules88

any advice as to GH and my age. Will i beifit from say 4 iu's a day, or should i wait till im older.

I'd start at 2ius ed and see if you get any sides,then you can increase the dose to 4ius.With gear you will benefit from it.But if your not going to compete,I'd wait til later in life.

**hercules88** · 04-08-2004, 07:40 PM

Originally Posted by Da Bull

wait til later in life.

what are your reasons??? is it sides. i want the size now, and then when i feel i am big enough, (around 200 lbs at 9%bf) i will just maintane. i want to be as big as i want around 30. thats 6 years. are my thoughts makin sense???? thanx for the advice dabull

**Da Bull** · 04-08-2004, 07:59 PM

Originally Posted by hercules88

what are your reasons??? is it sides. i want the size now, and then when i feel i am big enough, (around 200 lbs at 9%bf) i will just maintane. i want to be as big as i want around 30. thats 6 years. are my thoughts makin sense???? thanx for the advice dabull

Ok,if you want to blow up now,then go for it.You can get sides from HGH at any age so it really doesn't matter.I was just suggesting this to save you some money now,since your body is still producing suffient amounts of HGH at your age.But like I said,go for it.But start at a lower doseage and you can always go up.Another piece of advice.Have the HGH kicking in your system before starting the cycle.You'll benefit greatly this way.

Good luck bro.

DB

**barbarian** · 04-08-2004, 08:16 PM

well with any drug, now mater if labeld a bulker or a cutter, your diet, training, and cardio(if any) makes or breaks weither its a cutter or a bulker, d bol bulks, winny gives lean mass and no bulk, but with proper diet, training, and antie es d bol could be used in cutting, and winny as a bulker, like arnold said "steroids help me 5%, they give a lil boost when you need it"