Deep Snap

**D-SNAP** · 02-07-2005, 08:39 PM

OK... I am a junior in high school, and i am a dep snapper on the football team. I have scouts comming to look at me next season (they called my coach), and i was wondering... I need to get my strength up, but i need to keep my speed up, or maybe even a 'lil faster. I am currently on my 4th week on test. enth. at 250 mg. a week. I was wondering if i should take winny, or equpoise... or what... I want to get cut... I've done all the research possible, i just wanna hear some experiences... My buddy is a lil overweight...20-22% Bf, and he wanted to know, if he takes a cycle of winny is it going to take care of the fat for him,. or does he have to loose it on his own....j/w, thanks alot

**D-END** · 02-07-2005, 09:20 PM

Originally Posted by D-SNAP

OK... I am a junior in high school, and i am a dep snapper on the football team. I have scouts comming to look at me next season (they called my coach), and i was wondering... I need to get my strength up, but i need to keep my speed up, or maybe even a 'lil faster. I am currently on my 4th week on test. enth. at 250 mg. a week. I was wondering if i should take winny, or equpoise... or what... I want to get cut... I've done all the research possible, i just wanna hear some experiences... My buddy is a lil overweight...20-22% Bf, and he wanted to know, if he takes a cycle of winny is it going to take care of the fat for him,. or does he have to loose it on his own....j/w, thanks alot

Get off steroids right NOW, do proper Post cycle therapy . Bro You can permantly close you growth plates and fvck up you natural test production for life. If your a junior in highschool you aren't even 18 years old. Please don't experiment with Steroids until you are at least 21 years old. Be safe and good luck with football.

I know this is not what you want to hear but when you do more research you will be glad I told you this.

**boistheman** · 02-07-2005, 09:21 PM

why are u juicing at 17, bro bad decision. Apparantly you havent been doing to much research or you wouldn't have asked that question. Bro Im really not trying to cut you down but 17 is a little young to be juicing. and tell your friend to get on a good diet and train hard before he starts juicing then maybe he wont have 20-22% bf.

**D-SNAP** · 02-07-2005, 09:25 PM

hey guys, i'm 19... i went to military school, and my credits didnt transfer from there to my school.

**D-END** · 02-07-2005, 09:29 PM

the point is bro you are starting to early and can really fvck up your natural test, take it from me I did it....I started when I was nineteen also and will probably be on Hormones replacement therapy by the time I'm 30.

**D-SNAP** · 02-07-2005, 09:32 PM

well if u know you're gonna be on hormone replacement... why do u keep juicin? everyone i've talked to at the gym people 30 yrs old that have been taking them since they were 16 say... if u do it right, and dont abuse it, and look out for signs, you'll be fine

**D-END** · 02-07-2005, 09:37 PM

Originally Posted by D-SNAP

well if u know you're gonna be on hormone replacement... why do u keep juicin? everyone i've talked to at the gym people 30 yrs old that have been taking them since they were 16 say... if u do it right, and dont abuse it, and look out for signs, you'll be fine

I was referring to the damage already done to my natural test by juicing when I was 19.

And since I see you have already made up your mind. Happy juicing

**D-END** · 02-07-2005, 10:07 PM

pm'ed

**statuZ** · 02-07-2005, 10:12 PM

Originally Posted by D-END

Get off steroids right NOW, do proper Post cycle therapy . Bro You can permantly close you growth plates and fvck up you natural test production for life. If your a junior in highschool you aren't even 18 years old. Please don't experiment with Steroids until you are at least 21 years old. Be safe and good luck with football.

I know this is not what you want to hear but when you do more research you will be glad I told you this.

im 18, i juiced it, and my test levels came back and they are concidered "normal".

**D-END** · 02-07-2005, 10:18 PM

Originally Posted by statuZ

im 18, i juiced it, and my test levels came back and they are concidered "normal".

sweet

**cjp85** · 02-07-2005, 10:53 PM

Originally Posted by D-SNAP

OK... I am a junior in high school, and i am a dep snapper on the football team. I have scouts comming to look at me next season (they called my coach), and i was wondering... I need to get my strength up, but i need to keep my speed up, or maybe even a 'lil faster. I am currently on my 4th week on test. enth. at 250 mg. a week. I was wondering if i should take winny, or equpoise... or what... I want to get cut... I've done all the research possible, i just wanna hear some experiences... My buddy is a lil overweight...20-22% Bf, and he wanted to know, if he takes a cycle of winny is it going to take care of the fat for him,. or does he have to loose it on his own....j/w, thanks alot

No offense, but your research sounds like it came from one of the gym commandos that loves to brag about their infinite knowledge. If you want to get your strength up, just ask how. Check out the powerlifting and workout forum. At 19 there is not a single reason why you shouldn't be able to get your strength and speed up without anabolics. I can't stress enough about why you need to search around and spend about a year reading before even entertaining the thought of using steroids . And no, anabolic (muscle gaining) steroids aren't going to take care of fat, especially for someone who is what most would call husky at 20-22% BF. Your friend could lose that weight very easily with a little less eating and a little more working. Good luck, and while you may not want to hear all this, for your own good stay off the sauce for a few years.

**cjp85** · 02-07-2005, 10:54 PM

Originally Posted by statuZ

im 18, i juiced it, and my test levels came back and they are concidered "normal".

While you may be the exception, the rule should not juice till old enough and when needed.

**MrMondodondo** · 02-08-2005, 12:01 AM

WAKE UP!!!!!! You guys are too young to Juice. PERIOD. I coach Football and would beat the sh1t out of anyone giving any of my players sauce. You can screw yourself up. Growth plates to be sure, but generally young guys go for the big (ego) strength and screw up your tendons, ligaments, and lower back forever. Trust me I know. You probabaly won't listen but if I can get through to you at all. Keep the reps higher and don't over-do the poundage or your screwed.

**clampitt** · 02-08-2005, 12:17 AM

19 years old and playing hs football??...

i thought you cant play after a certain age....

this your last year...cuz i dont think you can play hs football at age 20.

**SwoleCat** · 02-08-2005, 08:43 AM

I am 32 and play pee wee football STILL!!!!!!

Now what?

~SC~

**511220** · 02-08-2005, 09:01 AM

Originally Posted by SwoleCat

I am 32 and play pee wee football STILL!!!!!!

Now what?

~SC~

Your fine...I'm 35 and just started mini-mite hockey. I love crushin those lil mutha fukers!

**MrMondodondo** · 02-08-2005, 10:06 AM

Retards.

**LB55blitz** · 02-08-2005, 10:12 AM

Keep in mind this is just my opinion.

To compete at a top college level, there is pretty much no way around steroids (well there are, but it's less common). Not to say everyone is on, but a vast majority are. Starting in HS is a risk some of these kids are willing to take. Unfortunately a lot of them do not know enough and WILL hurt themselves in the future. But many of the top recruits coming out of HS are without a doubt on steroids. I personally waited until college to start, so I am not defending myself here. But I guess it's just the reality of things is that some kids benefit greatly from juice and in turn can earn scholorships to D1 schools. But by no means will juice make you a great player. Unless you have a legit shot at making it big in the sport, I wouldn't risk it until you are fully matured.

D-Snap. 19 is not unreasonable, but it really depends on what you are already like. If you are short, then your screwed. Big programs won't even look at linemen under 6'2'' unless they are a complete standout. By saying this I mean that if you believe you have a few more inches in you, then I would not risk the closing of your growth plates. Again I have no clue how tall you are, so I don't know if this applies to you. How about you post your stats such as 40 time, Lifts, Height, and Weight. That will help everyone here out a lot in giving you advice.

And as for your friend. Steroids will not make him lose weight. Cardio and diet will.

**t-money** · 02-08-2005, 11:24 AM

Originally Posted by LB55blitz

Keep in mind this is just my opinion.

To compete at a top college level, there is pretty much no way around steroids (well there are, but it's less common). Not to say everyone is on, but a vast majority are. Starting in HS is a risk some of these kids are willing to take. Unfortunately a lot of them do not know enough and WILL hurt themselves in the future. But many of the top recruits coming out of HS are without a doubt on steroids. I personally waited until college to start, so I am not defending myself here. But I guess it's just the reality of things is that some kids benefit greatly from juice and in turn can earn scholorships to D1 schools. But by no means will juice make you a great player. Unless you have a legit shot at making it big in the sport, I wouldn't risk it until you are fully matured.

D-Snap. 19 is not unreasonable, but it really depends on what you are already like. If you are short, then your screwed. Big programs won't even look at linemen under 6'2'' unless they are a complete standout. By saying this I mean that if you believe you have a few more inches in you, then I would not risk the closing of your growth plates. Again I have no clue how tall you are, so I don't know if this applies to you. How about you post your stats such as 40 time, Lifts, Height, and Weight. That will help everyone here out a lot in giving you advice.

And as for your friend. Steroids will not make him lose weight. Cardio and diet will.

I will second that. Good points LB55.

T

**playa4933** · 02-08-2005, 04:28 PM

hey bros,
I am 18, and i am considering, but before i do i am going to work on my diet definatly, and lift much smarter and take alot of advice from these boards. And if i get everything in check and still feel juice would be right, then i would do a really low basic cycle. i mean like one roid at a low dose. I might not even do it if i my diet and workouts get me the results im looking for.
Edit: oh and i will be doing this only if i think i have a good shot for college, and will do it the summer before too most likely.

**SwoleCat** · 02-08-2005, 04:59 PM

Originally Posted by 511220

Your fine...I'm 35 and just started mini-mite hockey. I love crushin those lil mutha fukers!

~SC~

**SickNasty** · 02-08-2005, 06:06 PM

dont get me wrong i wont juice till 20 but, doesn't estrogen cause growth plates to fuse?

cant he just block the e's

**kmc** · 02-26-2005, 01:45 AM

By the way, why the hell does a deep snapper feel the need to juice? You don't even have to be very big or strong for that position. That is a specialist position, you should concentrate more on your accuracy, form, etc. Your guards are their to help pick up the slack if you happen to be a little bit on the small side. 19 is still way too young to juice--especially if you are looking to further your football career. Being a long-snapper is about precision, accuracy, consistency, and being able to perform in high pressure situations...all of which steroids would be of no benefit.

**baller84** · 06-30-2005, 08:21 PM

Originally Posted by LB55blitz

Keep in mind this is just my opinion.

To compete at a top college level, there is pretty much no way around steroids (well there are, but it's less common). Not to say everyone is on, but a vast majority are. Starting in HS is a risk some of these kids are willing to take. Unfortunately a lot of them do not know enough and WILL hurt themselves in the future. But many of the top recruits coming out of HS are without a doubt on steroids. I personally waited until college to start, so I am not defending myself here. But I guess it's just the reality of things is that some kids benefit greatly from juice and in turn can earn scholorships to D1 schools. But by no means will juice make you a great player. Unless you have a legit shot at making it big in the sport, I wouldn't risk it until you are fully matured.

D-Snap. 19 is not unreasonable, but it really depends on what you are already like. If you are short, then your screwed. Big programs won't even look at linemen under 6'2'' unless they are a complete standout. By saying this I mean that if you believe you have a few more inches in you, then I would not risk the closing of your growth plates. Again I have no clue how tall you are, so I don't know if this applies to you. How about you post your stats such as 40 time, Lifts, Height, and Weight. That will help everyone here out a lot in giving you advice.

And as for your friend. Steroids will not make him lose weight. Cardio and diet will.

i play De/ snapper at a top d1 school in texas, was an all american out of high school and play with many many big mother ****ers who have never and dont take steiroids some "few" do but they are genetically gifted as and u can tell who is on and takes the juice, the guys who put on 50 lbs in 2 monts but some have been freaks all their lives....well u dont need that shit to get a scholarship for you position accuracy and speed is key and plus your still growing so wait