with your calorie intake and gear you will be using do you think you can eat this much in a 7-8 hour feed window, 3 massive meals??Quote:
Originally Posted by Razor
with your calorie intake and gear you will be using do you think you can eat this much in a 7-8 hour feed window, 3 massive meals??Quote:
Originally Posted by Razor
Not on gear yet so I will let you knowQuote:
Originally Posted by mockery
u have your cycle, its a matter of time. dont start this and then jump into your cycle..Quote:
Originally Posted by Razor
u need a two week bridge after eating at maintenance to restore your hormones from the fasts or eating in a deficit so you need a solid plan and you need to adjust to whats coming up in your future . are you not gonna blast for at least 3 months?
Yes gonna blast for 3 monthsQuote:
Originally Posted by mockery
no i mean are you waiting at least three months before you start the blast?
I want to try if but I have a question. When I'm cutting I like to drink bccaas during my workout. if I was training fasted in the am would that count as breaking my fast even though it has no calories? I drink ten grams before and 20 to thirty grams during training.
Its not too bad if you do this, but if u wanna do it perfectly I'd limit myself to ~10g bcaas
yes its counted as breaking your fast.Quote:
Originally Posted by jacobk91
It takes calories to burn fat, if you have no calories to burn, u will burn fat stores as calories to burn fat...
now if you have a source of calories inside you your body will use that, i think the idea of using bcaa is just to stop people from modifying the fast to their bro science logic. People argue if you use bcaa just use protein powder. where does it end?
Technically, it's breaking your fast, however it's the lesser of 2 evils IMO. Training in a completely fasted state, especially high volume and/or intensity, is just a bad idea. BCAA's will at least provide what's needed to kickstart protein synthesis and/or at least blunt muscle breakdown to a degree.Quote:
Originally Posted by jacobk91
This is just silly. BCAA's and protein powder aren't comparable. Protein powder has WAY more calories and would do much more 'harm' with regards to breaking a fast.Quote:
Originally Posted by mockery
@Jacobk91 - BCAA's do contain calories. Not many, but they're in there.
i am curious about the science behind this, if technically the synthesis happens in the rest/sleep phase of our lives. Does it even play a role on fasted training?Quote:
Originally Posted by gbrice75
Im on leangains IF I wouldn't call it a diet it's more of a eating style as you can eat at a deficit for fat loss or at a surplus for muscle gains, I shredded loads of fat on this diet. Im now using this style of eating to bulk. Im on my first ever cycle of sustonon and winny, 3 weeks in and I've gained 12lb!Quote:
Originally Posted by gbrice75
The precursors to synthesis will be in place at least. Anabolism is at it's peak while we sleep, but that doesn't mean it's completely dormant while we're awake. The idea in this case isn't necessarily to promote synthesis, but rather to halt breakdown. I'm pretty sure Martin has some info on this over at Leangains. I'll try and dig it up when I get a chance.Quote:
Originally Posted by mockery
Nice, congrats!Quote:
Originally Posted by 951thompson
whats your biggest calorie day? im not sure if i could eat 3 meals only in a massive calorie surplusQuote:
Originally Posted by 951thompson
On training days I eat 3000 cals that's a 600 cal surplus, on none training days I get though 2700. It's not so bad once you get used to it, I have 3 meals per day in a 6-7 hour window. My biggest meal comes post work out, I eat alot of starchy food post workout to give my depleted muscles a super charged insulin spike lol I will get though 1500 cals in my post workout meal. You do feel stuffed when you get though all of your calories, I like to have a nap after my last meal, when I wake I can feel myself growing, its mental! It's a good thing to do have a nap because digestion makes you tired, sleep = "growth, with that amount of food in your belly = mega growth lol and I have to say when the food comes out of the other end you drop some huge turds lol im talking about the size of a babies arm big lol yeah you drop some heavy poops!Quote:
Originally Posted by mockery
It's not as hard as you think to get cals, my pwo shake is around 1600 cals by itself, I use muscle techs mass tech which is technically a weight gainer but u add two extra scoops of whey I get in big bags from Costco. That's half my cal right there.
to me that is dirty dieting cause of teh sugars and chemicals in the weight gainer.Quote:
Originally Posted by ppwc1985
Agreed. To me those gainers are the most unnecessary sups aroundQuote:
Originally Posted by mockery
I agree, you may as well just eat a bag of sugar lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Tx89
I actually got though all of my calories today and was still hungry, greedy bugger I am lolQuote:
Originally Posted by mockery
another issue for me is when i eat my biggest meal 10 minutes after im ready for bed, coma style. i havent learned how to deal with this yet and can be an issue while im at work.
Why don't you move your eating window, so you have a small meal at dinnertime at work then the rest of your calories at home? I know what you mean tho after I have my biggest meal im out like a light lolQuote:
Originally Posted by mockery
Mock doing a 34h fast started last night @2am till tomorrow at 10am
nice, lets us know how you go.Quote:
Originally Posted by Razor
Bump!
Hey gb i was reading your oat pancakes recipe how much in grams is "4 packs of Splenda "Quote:
Originally Posted by gbrice75
Sorry to hijack
Milky
The proposed benefits of IF in animals and humans read like a laundry list of “look
better,” “feel better,” “live longer” physiological changes. These include:
REDUCED
• blood lipids (including decreased triglycerides and LDL cholesterol)
• blood pressure (perhaps through changes in sympathetic/parasympathetic activity)
• markers of inflammation (including CRP, IL-6, TNF, BDNF, and more)
• oxidative stress (using markers of protein, lipid, and DNA damage)
• risk of cancer
INCREASED
• cellular turnover and repair (called autophagocytosis)
• fat burning (increase in fatty acid oxidation later in the fast)
• growth hormone release later in the fast (hormonally mediated)
• metabolic rate later in the fast (stimulated by epinephrine and norepinephrine
release)
IMPROVED
• appetite control (perhaps through changes in PPY and ghrelin)
• blood sugar control (by lowering blood glucose and increasing insulin sensitivity)
• cardiovascular function (by offering protection against ischemic injury to the heart)
• effectiveness of chemotherapy (by allowing for higher doses more frequently)
• neurogenesis and neuronal plasticity (by offering protection against neurotoxins)
BUMP!!! For Deucefan
Bump because im going to do this. Looking at at 19/5 with two meals, 1 pre / 1 pwo.Quote:
Originally Posted by gbrice75
Alot more research to be done -_-
Bump for T-dogg ;)
Im doing this diet now. Sunday I did a 12hr fast. Wends ill do another 12hr fast and the following sunday Im shooting for 24hrs.