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08-15-2016, 07:45 AM #1Member
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Mass gainers are good if you don't have time to eat , but real food trumps supplements anyday ,
Most if not all mass gainers make you fat they are filled with shitty garbage fillers and carbs that are useless to you're body why do you think they cost less or the same price of protein power see it's because they are low quality
The protein in them is even worse ,
If you want a mass gainer shake grind up some oats and add protein ,
I know a guy who use to work for magnum and their mass gainer and many use cake batter for the carbs it's cheap and fills you up
Post workout you're still better with someone cleaner remember the cleaner the source the cleaner the results
Hope this helped
Enjoy
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08-15-2016, 08:21 AM #2
food is the best mass gainer
i like shakes when i am in a pinch or want to get some quick cals in
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40 grams whey protein (2 scoops usually)
Half cup to a cup of rolled or steel cut oats.
Half cup spinach
2-3 table spoons of extra Virgin olive oil or coconut oil.
Full cup of ice
Half cup of frozen fruit
Throw it in a blender and you have a great smoothy and low in sugars but high in complex carbs and vitamins and much cheaper.
All ingredients organic products if you can.
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08-16-2016, 06:21 AM #4RETIRED- Knowledgeable member
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08-16-2016, 09:13 AM #6
I like the following for post workout shake:
2 scoops of protein
2 heaping table spoons of finely blended steel cut oats
1 table spoon of peanut butter
1 tablespoon of honey
Tastes good and has quick carbs for replenishing your glycogen. I also take it as a pre-workout drink sometimes.
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Good call on the honey. If you get local organic bee honey that helps with allergies. Your body is basically exposed and learns not to recognize local pollen as an antigen or allergen.
The key here is that a lot of off the shelf honey is not actually honey, it's basically HFCS.
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08-16-2016, 02:01 PM #8
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Like I said the key is to make sure you get really honey. I am sure many have seen the articles wrote about supermarket honey actually containing no or small amounts of honey and being mostly sugars. While it's true that honey is a sugar in of itself. The amount of nutritious value from a good local honey supplier is immense. I just want to emphasize the value in making sure it really honey and not the knock off Chinese shit...lol
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08-16-2016, 05:17 PM #10
My shakes are:
1.5 scoops isolate
1 cup egg whites
1 cup oats
2 tbsp peanut butter
Whats with you guys adding peanut butter or oil to your post workout shake tho? The only time I add fats to my shake is when its not taken post workout. Post workout I am looking to get nutrients digested as fast as possible and the addition of oil will slow that down and the addition of butter will slow it down even further.
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08-16-2016, 05:53 PM #11
I simply look at it as another source of calories. I can't imagine it slowing down absorption to the point anyone would notice. Then again, I don't count calories or grams of anything. Maybe close to a contest or something but any other time I can't imagine worrying about it. If I did I'd be crushed by the several times per week pizza I ingest! I think there are far more health benefits to it than detriments when kept in perspective though.
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08-16-2016, 05:58 PM #12
Yup! If the pre workout meal has a slower digesting protein I wouldn't see it being much of an issue. I probably go through 6-8 tbsp of peanut butter a day just cause its such an easy way to get those fats in but the only time I avoid them is post workout. I Was just curious to know your reasoning for doing it the way you do. I feel you on the pizza man lol I'm not really watching my macros too closely either but once you've been doing this for a while I feel like we subconsciously know whats going on and I myself tend to steer towards foods which are high in protein while watching my "bad fat" intake.
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08-16-2016, 06:03 PM #13
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08-16-2016, 06:20 PM #14
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08-16-2016, 07:10 PM #15Originally Posted by Livinlean
It definitely has 'crack-like' properties!
I ate two in one sitting one day
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08-16-2016, 10:29 PM #16There are 3 loves in my life: my wife, my English mastiffs, and my weightlifting....Man, my wife gets really pissed when I get the 3 confused...
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08-16-2016, 11:45 PM #17
Massgainers are your worst enemy. I used them a lot, believe me. No pros use them. Its almost better to stop at McDonalds.
Empty calories without micros. Buy yourself a blender and mix your own massgainer with arteriecleaning and qualitycarbs, fats and proteins. Like Spinach, Oat, Broccoli, asparagus, sweet potatoes and whey.
Whey on the other hand is your dearest friend and no food in the hole world beats Whey isolate rigth after training and when you stand up in the morning.
Use a own supplement mix for glutamin, bcaa and creatin, which you can put in you selfmade foodmassgainer f.i.
And homemixing is much more cheap. Frozen spinach and broccoli ,oat and sweetpotatoes, the best a bodybuilder can get (protein is overrated, -again Piana is rigth) is almost for free in Norway, the most expensive conutry in the world.
Blender was expensive though. 1000 dollars.Last edited by AR's King Silabolin; 08-16-2016 at 11:48 PM.
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i have two shks I use
ONGS 2scoops 1c egg whites, oatmeal(1/2-1c) banana - an ocassional low Fat ice cream vanilla(Kel got me on this)
ARM(anabolic recovery matrix) Pre/intra P/C/BCAAs/Creatine mono(3-5g) replenishes Cs pre/intra and post I'll have a P shk w/food
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08-22-2016, 01:39 PM #19
make your own.
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in blender:
1-2 banana
handfull frozen berries
25g oatmeal(a scoop)
50-75g protein pwoder
3g creatine
2g taurine
2tbs nutbutter
fill with milk or water and blend.
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08-31-2016, 07:14 AM #20New Member
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This - no need for weight gainers.
But if you had to answer, weight gainers will help you build more muscle just because they are higher calories and overeating is extremely anabolic .
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08-31-2016, 05:53 PM #21
Of course consider different quality and concentrations of the whey but I say that an isolate is an isolate...the mass gainer will just have more nutrients etc. carbs etc.. Then just straight whey..so yeah it will give you more calories then just a lean whey protein shake..
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08-31-2016, 05:54 PM #22
PS: I know dudes that can drink all the "mass gainer " they can handle and still not gain mass that much. Really at all...won't rely on mass gainer nor get hopes up..consider your body types and genetics..
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09-06-2016, 12:30 PM #23
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09-10-2016, 05:45 PM #24Junior Member
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It doesn't really matter where the calories come from. Apart from the fact that mass gainers may contais creatine, mass gainers = protein powder + food. Neither one is neccessarily more effective, it comes down the preference and how much you can physically eat.
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