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    Mass gainers are good if you don't have time to eat , but real food trumps supplements anyday ,

    Most if not all mass gainers make you fat they are filled with shitty garbage fillers and carbs that are useless to you're body why do you think they cost less or the same price of protein power see it's because they are low quality

    The protein in them is even worse ,

    If you want a mass gainer shake grind up some oats and add protein ,

    I know a guy who use to work for magnum and their mass gainer and many use cake batter for the carbs it's cheap and fills you up

    Post workout you're still better with someone cleaner remember the cleaner the source the cleaner the results

    Hope this helped
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    food is the best mass gainer

    i like shakes when i am in a pinch or want to get some quick cals in
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tarasoft11 View Post
    which ingredients do you guys use for creating your own mass gainers
    40 grams whey protein (2 scoops usually)
    Half cup to a cup of rolled or steel cut oats.
    Half cup spinach
    2-3 table spoons of extra Virgin olive oil or coconut oil.
    Full cup of ice
    Half cup of frozen fruit

    Throw it in a blender and you have a great smoothy and low in sugars but high in complex carbs and vitamins and much cheaper.

    All ingredients organic products if you can.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tarasoft11 View Post
    which ingredients do you guys use for creating your own mass gainers
    33g American whey
    1 banana
    1-2 cups quick oats (use rolled oats if it's going to sit in your gym bag for a while)
    32-64g peanut butter
    1/2-2 cups whole milk

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tarasoft11 View Post
    thanks for the ingredients guys.
    if i already eat oats on its own for breakfast, is it necessary to add it in the mass gainer shakes. would that be too much
    That would depend on your macros.

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    I like the following for post workout shake:
    2 scoops of protein
    2 heaping table spoons of finely blended steel cut oats
    1 table spoon of peanut butter
    1 tablespoon of honey

    Tastes good and has quick carbs for replenishing your glycogen. I also take it as a pre-workout drink sometimes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScotchGuard02 View Post
    I like the following for post workout shake:
    2 scoops of protein
    2 heaping table spoons of finely blended steel cut oats
    1 table spoon of peanut butter
    1 tablespoon of honey

    Tastes good and has quick carbs for replenishing your glycogen. I also take it as a pre-workout drink sometimes.
    Good call on the honey. If you get local organic bee honey that helps with allergies. Your body is basically exposed and learns not to recognize local pollen as an antigen or allergen.

    The key here is that a lot of off the shelf honey is not actually honey, it's basically HFCS.

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    My post workout shake is:

    2 hefty scoops whey protein
    2 tablespoons peanut butter
    Banana
    Creatine
    Low fat vanilla ice cream (works for me)


    Adding some honey sounds interesting. Will try that later today!
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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    My post workout shake is:

    2 hefty scoops whey protein
    2 tablespoons peanut butter
    Banana
    Creatine
    Low fat vanilla ice cream (works for me)


    Adding some honey sounds interesting. Will try that later today!
    Like I said the key is to make sure you get really honey. I am sure many have seen the articles wrote about supermarket honey actually containing no or small amounts of honey and being mostly sugars. While it's true that honey is a sugar in of itself. The amount of nutritious value from a good local honey supplier is immense. I just want to emphasize the value in making sure it really honey and not the knock off Chinese shit...lol

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    My shakes are:

    1.5 scoops isolate
    1 cup egg whites
    1 cup oats
    2 tbsp peanut butter

    Whats with you guys adding peanut butter or oil to your post workout shake tho? The only time I add fats to my shake is when its not taken post workout. Post workout I am looking to get nutrients digested as fast as possible and the addition of oil will slow that down and the addition of butter will slow it down even further.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Livinlean View Post
    My shakes are:

    1.5 scoops isolate
    1 cup egg whites
    1 cup oats
    2 tbsp peanut butter

    Whats with you guys adding peanut butter or oil to your post workout shake tho? The only time I add fats to my shake is when its not taken post workout. Post workout I am looking to get nutrients digested as fast as possible and the addition of oil will slow that down and the addition of butter will slow it down even further.

    I simply look at it as another source of calories. I can't imagine it slowing down absorption to the point anyone would notice. Then again, I don't count calories or grams of anything. Maybe close to a contest or something but any other time I can't imagine worrying about it. If I did I'd be crushed by the several times per week pizza I ingest! I think there are far more health benefits to it than detriments when kept in perspective though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    I simply look at it as another source of calories. I can't imagine it slowing down absorption to the point anyone would notice. Then again, I don't count calories or grams of anything. Maybe close to a contest or something but any other time I can't imagine worrying about it. If I did I'd be crushed by the several times per week pizza I ingest! I think there are far more health benefits to it than detriments when kept in perspective though.

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    Yup! If the pre workout meal has a slower digesting protein I wouldn't see it being much of an issue. I probably go through 6-8 tbsp of peanut butter a day just cause its such an easy way to get those fats in but the only time I avoid them is post workout. I Was just curious to know your reasoning for doing it the way you do. I feel you on the pizza man lol I'm not really watching my macros too closely either but once you've been doing this for a while I feel like we subconsciously know whats going on and I myself tend to steer towards foods which are high in protein while watching my "bad fat" intake.

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    You've got to try this pizza then. Thin crust, stats are surprisingly good. Love these things:

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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    You've got to try this pizza then. Thin crust, stats are surprisingly good. Love these things:

    Oh man now you got me craving pizza Lol! I'm not sure if we have that up in Canada but on my next visit down south I'll be sure to grab a box or two. Thanks for the suggestion!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Livinlean
    Oh man now you got me craving pizza Lol! I'm not sure if we have that up in Canada but on my next visit down south I'll be sure to grab a box or two. Thanks for the suggestion!
    You can prob order it online I bet

    It definitely has 'crack-like' properties!

    I ate two in one sitting one day

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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    You've got to try this pizza then. Thin crust, stats are surprisingly good. Love these things:

    That is actually one of the few frozen pizzas I like.
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    Massgainers are your worst enemy. I used them a lot, believe me. No pros use them. Its almost better to stop at McDonalds.
    Empty calories without micros. Buy yourself a blender and mix your own massgainer with arteriecleaning and qualitycarbs, fats and proteins. Like Spinach, Oat, Broccoli, asparagus, sweet potatoes and whey.
    Whey on the other hand is your dearest friend and no food in the hole world beats Whey isolate rigth after training and when you stand up in the morning.

    Use a own supplement mix for glutamin, bcaa and creatin, which you can put in you selfmade foodmassgainer f.i.

    And homemixing is much more cheap. Frozen spinach and broccoli ,oat and sweetpotatoes, the best a bodybuilder can get (protein is overrated, -again Piana is rigth) is almost for free in Norway, the most expensive conutry in the world.

    Blender was expensive though. 1000 dollars.
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    i have two shks I use

    ONGS 2scoops 1c egg whites, oatmeal(1/2-1c) banana - an ocassional low Fat ice cream vanilla(Kel got me on this)

    ARM(anabolic recovery matrix) Pre/intra P/C/BCAAs/Creatine mono(3-5g) replenishes Cs pre/intra and post I'll have a P shk w/food

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    make your own.

    ..
    in blender:
    1-2 banana
    handfull frozen berries
    25g oatmeal(a scoop)
    50-75g protein pwoder
    3g creatine
    2g taurine
    2tbs nutbutter
    fill with milk or water and blend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RaginCajun View Post
    food is the best mass gainer
    This - no need for weight gainers.

    But if you had to answer, weight gainers will help you build more muscle just because they are higher calories and overeating is extremely anabolic .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonbana View Post
    Mass gainers are good if you don't have time to eat , but real food trumps supplements anyday ,

    Most if not all mass gainers make you fat they are filled with shitty garbage fillers and carbs that are useless to you're body why do you think they cost less or the same price of protein power see it's because they are low quality

    The protein in them is even worse ,

    If you want a mass gainer shake grind up some oats and add protein ,

    I know a guy who use to work for magnum and their mass gainer and many use cake batter for the carbs it's cheap and fills you up

    Post workout you're still better with someone cleaner remember the cleaner the source the cleaner the results

    Hope this helped
    Enjoy
    Of course consider different quality and concentrations of the whey but I say that an isolate is an isolate...the mass gainer will just have more nutrients etc. carbs etc.. Then just straight whey..so yeah it will give you more calories then just a lean whey protein shake..

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    PS: I know dudes that can drink all the "mass gainer " they can handle and still not gain mass that much. Really at all...won't rely on mass gainer nor get hopes up..consider your body types and genetics..

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    It doesn't really matter where the calories come from. Apart from the fact that mass gainers may contais creatine, mass gainers = protein powder + food. Neither one is neccessarily more effective, it comes down the preference and how much you can physically eat.

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