Cyp users T level ranges....

**kelkel** · 11-25-2011, 11:22 AM

Since I still use gel and the majority of people on this site inject, I'm very curious about the following:

1. T levels the day before injection (and frequency of injection. 3 days, 7 days, etc)
2. Amount used
3. Peak T level if ever obtained
4. Since starting TRT have you adjusted up or down and why. Dr's orders, how you felt, combination, etc.

I'd really like to see what type of swing in levels you experience throughout a normal week from peak to trough if possible while on injections.

Thanks guys!

**bass** · 11-25-2011, 12:53 PM

my last blood work was the highest I've ever seen, and the test was done one day prior to injection day, my total was 1500 range 348-1197 and my free T was 35 range 7.2-24. at the time i was injecting 100 mgs twice a week, thats a total of 200 mgs ew. yes I've changed my protocol few times on my own, and my clinic approved it. i was on 200 once a week, then went down to 160 once a week, then 50 twice a week and finally 60 mgs twice a week SQ injection, and so far i feel better with lower dose either IM or SQ! BTW, when i was on once a week i did feel kind of drained out on day 6 and 7, not anymore since i been on twice a week.

**APIs** · 11-25-2011, 01:11 PM

I'm on 100 mgs Test Cyp e4d. Last blood drawn on 11/3/11 was 4 days after last injection. Total Test was 1431 and Free Test was 47.5. I started TRT with 50 mgs e4d but up'd it to 100 mgs after a couple months. Feel better @ the higher dose with no swings.

**fit2bOld** · 11-25-2011, 01:29 PM

I'm on 60mg 2x a week puts me at 714 (Range 250-1100) day before I inject. Before I was on 100mg 2x week was at 1278 but that also sent my estrogen up.
I feel a bit jacked up on the higher dose which isn't bad, but they estrogen thing gets harder to control, already taking .25mg anastrozole daily suppose I could up that?

**SEMPERFI77** · 11-25-2011, 01:48 PM

I originally switched to injections when Testim didn't raise my levels. My original natural level at 41 when tested two years ago was 239. I started with 100 mg of Test Cyp injected every Monday. After the third injection I really began to feel good ie; energy, libido, mood and attitude greatly improved. My doctor had me get blood drawn on Friday 4-days after my shot. My levels came back: TT 1033 (300-890) FT 279 (47-244) SHBG 18 (11-80) No Estradiol tested. Doctor said my levels were to high and dropped me to 80 mg a week. I went for about three months at this new amount and had my blood drawn on Wednesday 2-days after injection per doctor. My levels came back: TT 894 (300-890) FT 215 (47-244) SHBG 24 (11-80) Estradiol 54.8 (<20-47). I advised my Doctor that I felt moody on Sunday, he then stated my levels were to high and dropped me to 60 mg a week and had me buy "Moyomin" for estrogen control. At 60 mg and while taking Myomin I felt horrible on the weekend and had no libido. I am no longer with this Doctor.

I then found a Doctor to add HCG to my Trt protocol at 250 iu two times a week. I really felt no real benefits from this and even with splitting my 60 mg to twice a week 30 mg on Monday & Thursday I still felt like shit come the weekend. I have currently been on Pellets the last 7-months but have advised my new Doctor that I would prefer to be on shots and would like to start at 100 mg were I felt my best.

**Brohim** · 11-25-2011, 09:01 PM

Semper 30 twice a week is only 60mg a week. Too low. Try 100mg on mon. and 250iu HCG on Sat and Sun. That is Dr. Crisler protocol.

**SEMPERFI77** · 11-26-2011, 12:08 PM

Thanks Brohim, please read the last paragraph of my thread. Been there done that. Trying to get back to taking 100 mg a week. I was taking HCG twice a week at one time but really didn't get much of a benefit from it. To me it's not worth the money time and effort. But, that is just my opinion and it definitely seems to work for some.