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    n2guard for liver, etc ?

    Has anyone tried this "n2guard". suppose to take this for every cycle. its 8 caps a day for the entire cycle and covers: blood pressure, cholesterol, liver, receptor up-regulators and more.
    Ive also heard about "milkthistle" or "liv52"?

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    milk thistle is the only thing I've heard of taking during cycles, and it works! but you have to cycle it as well, like no more than 4 weeks at a time. i do it three times a year.

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    wow ok thanks "Bass"

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    BTW, you don't have to do it three times a year, my liver is on the weak side and thats why three times a year, just keeps those enzymes really low and liver healthy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bass View Post
    milk thistle is the only thing I've heard of taking during cycles, and it works! but you have to cycle it as well, like no more than 4 weeks at a time. i do it three times a year.
    How much milk thistle do you take per day? How do you know it works?

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    milk thistle is unproven and unnecessary

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    Quote Originally Posted by dec11
    milk thistle is unproven and unnecessary
    That's what I was getting at...

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    Quote Originally Posted by dec11
    milk thistle is unproven and unnecessary
    It worked for me.

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    Milk thistle doesnt need to be cycled. I been on it for a long time and keeps my liver well. Doesn't hurt to take it, so take it. 750mg daily

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    Quote Originally Posted by brazilian86
    Milk thistle doesnt need to be cycled. I been on it for a long time and keeps my liver well. Doesn't hurt to take it, so take it. 750mg daily
    That's true, but also no need to take it continously, once your liver is running optimal you can stop and save MT and save money.

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    From the research I did a few years back it seemed milk thistle is good stuff but weak for a liver cleanse and liv 52 did better.

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    Aside from blood tests how does one know they have a weak liver? What kind of symptoms would you experience? I am currently taking milk thistle but can't tell a difference on it.

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    Symptoms of liver problems associated with oral AAS could be any of the following: abdominal pain, light colored stools, dark colored urine, unusual fatigue, nausea or vomiting, or yellowing of the skin or eye.

    Try researching TUDCA/UDCA. There is some very promising research that has been done on these.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lovbyts View Post
    From the research I did a few years back it seemed milk thistle is good stuff but weak for a liver cleanse and liv 52 did better.
    I take several grams of MT a day. Problem with MT is you need to take sufficient quantities, well above the recommended dose when you purchase it in caps at GNC.

    Bulk purchases off set the costs associated with higher doses.........

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    NAC works perfect for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite View Post
    NAC works perfect for me.
    I take NAC too. Every two or three years, i'll undergo a 6month course. It works slowly. It also removes heavy metals and other toxins from the body that the body otherwise would not be able to purge.....

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    By NAC do you guys mean N-Acetyl Cysteine? If so can it be taken daily?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brazensol View Post
    By NAC do you guys mean N-Acetyl Cysteine? If so can it be taken daily?
    yes.

    And I will take it every day for six months. It is pretty much the only effective oral heavy metal chelator available.

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    I wished I had heard of this sooner. Is any particular source better than another? I am getting my mercury fillings removed starting next March. They've been there far to long...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Times Roman View Post
    I take NAC too. Every two or three years, i'll undergo a 6month course. It works slowly. It also removes heavy metals and other toxins from the body that the body otherwise would not be able to purge.....
    Quote Originally Posted by Brazensol View Post
    By NAC do you guys mean N-Acetyl Cysteine? If so can it be taken daily?
    Quote Originally Posted by Times Roman View Post
    yes.

    And I will take it every day for six months. It is pretty much the only effective oral heavy metal chelator available.
    Good information. I have not done this YET... I will soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brazensol View Post
    I wished I had heard of this sooner. Is any particular source better than another? I am getting my mercury fillings removed starting next March. They've been there far to long...
    You can PM me and I'll show you where i get mine..............

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    Quote Originally Posted by dec11 View Post
    milk thistle is unproven and unnecessary
    Nonsense.

    Referring back to the other thread you stated this and I posted a more relivant study looking at anabolic -androgenic steroids , you still claim its "unproven and unnecessary".

    Again, my lover values were high (112) after 12 week sof Tbol, 4-5 days later they were back in ranges on MK and an increase in lemon and water. Yes, the lemon+water would have helped, but the MK was the one that did it IMO.

    Try it and see.

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