HCG effects to Estrogen levels

**fm2002** · 11-01-2012, 06:37 PM

I'm about to add HCG to my HRT to bridge the gap between the end of the half life of my Test E shots. As I'm also taking a Aromotose Inhibitor I'm wondering what effects if any adding the HCG will have to my Estrogen levels and will I have to increase my AI to compensate ?

**bass** · 11-01-2012, 07:14 PM

hCG will raise your test level which means more e2 conversion, AI my need to be adjusted, but that has to be based on BW. I'd say do e2 test 4 weeks later then make the necessary adjustments.

**kelkel** · 11-01-2012, 07:19 PM

You should be on HCG . But to bridge the gap? Why not just switch to injecting half your dose every 3.5 days. There will be no down turn of your test level and there will be less of a spike in your E level. Less injected = less spike in E = less AI needed. This will help you. It has worked for many of the guys here. A few, in conjunction with a good diet and a reduction in BF have been able to totally eliminate their AI. Less is more! Try SQ as well.

Kel

**fm2002** · 11-01-2012, 07:28 PM

Agree with you 100%. I should be doing Cyp not Eth too. However I don't do and don't want to do my own IM injections (yes I'm a Pu**y) so it becomes problematic. Actually considering Sub Q Test shots which I could do myself. Still waiting for the jury to decide on effectiveness.

**kelkel** · 11-01-2012, 07:39 PM

Jury is now in. Look at this thread. A lot of us have been doing them for a while now. I actually do both IM and SQ for variety I guess. If this doesn't do it for you, I don't know what will! Crisler is one of the leading TRT docs in the country...

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...on-sub-q-shots.

kel

**fm2002** · 11-01-2012, 08:45 PM

Crisler is where I got the HCG protocol from and where I read/watched his opinion on Sub Q. Waiting to get back to the states to see my "leading" HRT doc at Scripps for a second opinion.

Few questions; I just bought 6 months supply (so want to use it up) of Ethanate which I do 150mg every 10th day. Could I use Eth for an everyday Sub Q and what would that amount be, 15mg per day?

**TraceMYD** · 11-01-2012, 09:52 PM

Originally Posted by kelkel

You should be on HCG . But to bridge the gap? Why not just switch to injecting half your dose every 3.5 days. There will be no down turn of your test level and there will be less of a spike in your E level. Less injected = less spike in E = less AI needed. This will help you. It has worked for many of the guys here. A few, in conjunction with a good diet and a reduction in BF have been able to totally eliminate their AI. Less is more! Try SQ as well.

Kel

That's great advise..Kel is the man!

I took it and can vouch for it... I switched several months ago to injecting half my dose every 3.5 days and I'm feeling so much better!
I only need to take one dose of .25mg of ai week now... and I'm hoping soon that I will be off of that very soon as I'm lowering my bodyfat.

Also a clean diet makes the world of difference... I made some pretty great gains in the past 7 weeks just by changing my protocol and cleaning my diet up.

hell, I'm even working out 2xday now 4xweek doing crossfit. I have never had this type of energy before!

listen to Kel, gdevine, bass, vett and many others on here.. great advise all around.