Seeing lots of posts on facebook advertising lawsuits to testosterone manufacturers

**ctenosaura** · 06-15-2014, 02:45 PM

Seeing lots of posts on Facebook advertising lawsuits to testosterone manufacturers claiming that androgel and other products are causing heart attacks. Is this bogus and just ambulance chasers trying to make quick money or have things changed now and there is a possible link?

**The_Crawfish** · 06-15-2014, 07:07 PM

I believe most of the heart attacks/strokes being linked to trt is from folks with shitty docs not monitoring patients with BW. Things like a high hematocrit levels, out of whack e2 levels, etc...can have bad/serious consequences.
There was a lengthy discussion on this same topic not too long ago.

**kelkel** · 06-15-2014, 07:19 PM

Originally Posted by The_Crawfish

I believe most of the heart attacks/strokes being linked to trt is from folks with shitty docs not monitoring patients with BW. Things like a high hematocrit levels, out of whack e2 levels, etc...can have bad/serious consequences.
There was a lengthy discussion on this same topic not too long ago.

This ^^^. And there is a multiple page thread on it. Interesting read. The original study that blamed testosterone was horribly flawed and multiple medical groups have come out against it in a big way:

Groups slam testosterone study, call for retraction | Urology Times

Twenty-Five Medical Societies Join Androgen Study Group to Petition JAMA to Retract Misleading... -- BOSTON, April 10, 2014 /PRNewswire/ --

Regardless, ambulance chasers will still be out there...

**ppwc1985** · 06-16-2014, 01:59 AM

Yep I have met a few guys on trt locally and doing shots once a month and no AI or anything. I send them here.

**Beethoven** · 06-16-2014, 08:09 AM

Originally Posted by ppwc1985

Yep I have met a few guys on trt locally and doing shots once a month and no AI or anything. I send them here.

We've seen them here many times with really outdated protocols with il informed Drs. I've seen the ads on TV, radio and social media. Disgusting.

**Times Roman** · 06-16-2014, 11:42 AM

but think about it mates...

...unlike here (hopefully), some of these blokes taking the gel could have bf% 30%+

and when the test kicks in, they start feeling youthful, and then they over do it. then they want to blame the testosterone ??

What they should be doing is taking responsibility for their lazy couch potato asses in the first place, and learn how to gradually build up their physical activity levels.

just my .02

---Roman