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    Persistent allergy like symptoms and muscle tension/craps!

    not on var for about 2 weeks now, but since i started var 7 weeks ago i been having a allergy like symptoms, runny nose like hay fever. also been having muscle tightness and some times i get cramps from simple movements! like when i twist my body to give myself a shot, it take a minute or so holding my position and all the sudden i get a cramp on my upper back muscle. also when i chew on something hard like beef jerky my jaws gets tired very quick and almost get a cramping feeling in my jaw! anyone had this experience?

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    Bass, was it you complaining of muscles cramps about the same time they starving d3 and considered trying half dose?

    HOW much water you drinking a day

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    Bass, was it you complaining of muscles cramps about the same time they starving d3 and considered trying half dose?

    HOW much water you drinking a day

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    yes it was me, and i cut the does to half of what i was taking. I'll be checking V. D in my next blood work. i drink about 1 gallon a day, its hard to do more than that in winter, besides my body doesn't hold water, it comes out few minutes after i drink it, it makes no sense to drink more.

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    how about the milk thistle? Did you just start this when you got off the var to help the liver?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lvs View Post
    how about the milk thistle? Did you just start this when you got off the var to help the liver?
    yes i did! and milk thistle does give some sides but more with breathing, some times i feel like i can't get enough air in my lungs. this i expected from milk thistle.

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    Remind me not to take milk thistle then....

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    Had this issue before starting TRT but now i am fine

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    Maybe you are sick? Could happen.

    I had the same muscle cramp problem when I was taking clen and not drinking enough water. Probably useless info since you are NOT taking clen and ARE drinking enough water. Just sharing.

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    Drinking more water makes tones of sense, most of us might not be drinking enough, that and cut caffeine, i just cutted out the energy drink i used to drink everyday, the monsters, red bull and more, and i feel great, replace this with raw honey in warm water and cinnamon. Energy level is great.

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    i've got the muscle cramp/kink in upper back and the fvcker wont seem to go away...
    funny thing i heard on the news a few weeks back is doctors reporting a plethera of complaints of neck cramps similar and calling it "text neck" I text A LOT!
    just sayin
    bass..u were due for a thread like this lol

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    LOL, i don't text much but do lots of computer work! i think its probably my supplements, so i'll stop the supplements and see how it goes...

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    I don't have anything useful to add to this thread, I just thought it was funny that you said "CRAPS" in the title.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bass View Post
    LOL, i don't text much but do lots of computer work! i think its probably my supplements, so i'll stop the supplements and see how it goes...
    if ur like me your computer chair is reclined back and your you have to tilt your head forward...u never know..its something repetitive

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    update:

    i stopped vitamin D3 two weeks ago and all my symptoms (allergy and cramps) are gone. i will start D3 again but at lower doses and see if they come back. i'll keep you posted.

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    Awesome news! Been curious about this for you!


    You gonna try half dose or less?

    I'm currently on 5000iu day

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    In addition, you may consider a different brand. There may be some additive that you are sensitive to?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bass View Post
    update:

    i stopped vitamin D3 two weeks ago and all my symptoms (allergy and cramps) are gone. i will start D3 again but at lower doses and see if they come back. i'll keep you posted.
    How long we're you at 10000 iu a day?

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    actually i was on 20,000 iu ed and just recently i lowered it to 10,000, then stopped for a while, and now i'll take 10,000 iu eod because one gelcap is 10,000. but to be honest i don't think its the D3, its got to be the weather, i just never experienced this allergy at this time of the year. still comes and goes.

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    I have similar symptoms since I did a partial cycle of EQ. I've been on TRT, 80mg/test cyp per week. During the EQ cycle 4 weeks in I started getting high blood pressure and stuffy sinuses/ears/head.

    Been only taking Test cyp since, and after 4 months, I still get stuffy sinuses/ears/head.

    I think part of it is high E2. Getting some labs done soon. When taking arimidex , seems to get rid of it.

    Also, I've got some theories about autoimmune reactions to various extraneous things, like Test cyp, reaction of the body to the other forum substance.

    Could be the vitamin D3.

    Basically, one by one, I've begun to stop taking everything. And see what resolves it.

    Seems like you might have found the culprit. I switched D3 brands, it contains safflower oil, which I have all sorts of other environmental allergies to stuff, maybe that is causing it?

    Keep us posted.
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    since i reduced D3 from 20,000iu to 10,000 ed the sniffles went away. i can't really be surer if its D3 or not, it could have been a coincidence!

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    Geeze Bass 20,000/day??????

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    Again Bass were u really taking that much or was that a typo?

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