which would I get more gains with?

**Ironman5151** · 10-20-2004, 01:42 PM

Running growth for 3 months at 4iu's a day 5 on and 2 off with test e @ 500mg a week for 12 weeks.

or

1-4 d-bol 30mg a day
1-12 test e 500mg a week
1-12 deca 500mg a week

I know the second choice would be way cheapier, but if I can get better results from running the growth I don't mind spending the money. Thanks for the help.

**bigjohnr** · 10-20-2004, 02:45 PM

#2 !
The HGH will just be kicking in at the 3 month point if at all. You are comparing apples and oranges. I am running HGH but it is a long term treatment. I don't know if you will see much growth off of 4 IU's a day but you will see fat loss and some minor growth.
I would invest in the HGH when you are ready to go on for a long run.
I hope this helps.
Good luck

**Stumbo** · 10-20-2004, 02:51 PM

I, personally, would start using HGH until i was having a hard time making gains using gears. I would look into IGF if I were you.

**slowpain** · 10-20-2004, 04:35 PM

Why would IGF be safer to take than HGH? HGH turns into IGF-1 correct?

**Ironman5151** · 10-20-2004, 04:36 PM

Thanks for the input. Guess I'll stick to #2 because I'm not rich enough to fun the hgh much longer than 3 months..

**angelxterminator** · 10-20-2004, 08:46 PM

If i was required to pick between using IGF-1 and GH for quick gains, and funding was something that had to be considered, IGF-1 would be my choice for sure!

The GH will take much longer for your igf-1 levels to manifest themselves, and is something that is for long term.
If you want gains in 3 months with your cycle run some igf-1 lr3, i think you will be much happier with what you see!