HGH for someone under 22yrs old?

**Hellmaskbanned** · 07-21-2006, 10:05 PM

How would taking HGH effect me for being 21 yrs of age?

I know My body is producing large amounts of HGH already but plz let me explain my side first.

I've had an elbow injury for 3 years. I am a college pitcher , highly ranked great possibility of going pro. Now for the past 3 years I have not been able to come back due to my elbow injury. MRI nothing, Bone scan ok, Nerve scan fine and dandy. Therapy doesnt help, Steroids Don't help but allow me to train and make strength gains faster. Now for the past years I've been training more like a bber than a pitcher because of my injury I can't throw above 60% without hurting my arm, making it impossible to throw.

So will takeing 2iu-6iu's help my nagging elbow get back to 100% so I can get on with my life again?

Just for healing not for anything else. Maybe recovery for workouts but thats it.

**vermin** · 07-21-2006, 10:59 PM

I'd have my doubts, though I'd doubt it'd hurt to take more like 2-3IUs. I'd think you'd know within 12 weeks.

I know it is hard, but have you tried doing nothing for 3-4 weeks? For some types of tendonitis that is the only thing I have every had work.

Nothign really means nothing - not even a light pump workout, no practice, no disc in the park, hell baby the damn thing when you use the computer.

**fossilfuel7** · 07-21-2006, 11:14 PM

It sounds like you have got chronic Tendonosis in your elbow which is the same freaking thing I've got in both arms(4-5years now)

In my case....if I stop all activities..It actually gets worse.

I will actually be doing GH under a doctors supervision to try and eliminate this issue as he and I feel it has good potential(especially if you have not torn the tendon before).

I will be starting at 2-3Iu's per day and may not go above that.

Try the search bar. There are lots of people on this board who have cured there chronic tendon problems by cycling GH.

Do more research on how GH works and you will see why it makes sense that it could work wonders for tendons.

Pitching at your level is demanding on the elbows for sure, but it is something that you will have to try.

Also...GH takes time before it really starts to have an effect. Usually 3-4 months for most, so it is something that would be a long term project IMO.

Besides injecting it 5/2 ed(sub Q)..I will also be having my doctor do spot injections into the tendons which others have reported great success with for tendon problems.

**Hellmaskbanned** · 07-21-2006, 11:48 PM

Originally Posted by fossilfuel7

It sounds like you have got chronic Tendonosis in your elbow which is the same freaking thing I've got in both arms(4-5years now)

In my case....if I stop all activities..It actually gets worse.

I will actually be doing GH under a doctors supervision to try and eliminate this issue as he and I feel it has good potential(especially if you have not torn the tendon before).

I will be starting at 2-3Iu's per day and may not go above that.

Try the search bar. There are lots of people on this board who have cured there chronic tendon problems by cycling GH.

Do more research on how GH works and you will see why it makes sense that it could work wonders for tendons.

Pitching at your level is demanding on the elbows for sure, but it is something that you will have to try.

Also...GH takes time before it really starts to have an effect. Usually 3-4 months for most, so it is something that would be a long term project IMO.

Besides injecting it 5/2 ed(sub Q)..I will also be having my doctor do spot injections into the tendons which others have reported great success with for tendon problems.

Hell Yeah! Sounds fantastic. Hope it goes well for you. I will have to try it out aswell.

Never read anything about spot injections in the tendon! Sounds excillent.
I'm pysched! It's been so long since I've thrown , its my life I hope this will cure my problem. Great post

Anybody else with any info!?

**Hellmaskbanned** · 07-22-2006, 12:33 PM

Hey fossilfuel,

How did you get your docter to start HGH? Or was it his idea in the first place?

Thanks

**Hellmaskbanned** · 07-22-2006, 02:19 PM

+ Does anybody know of any scientific studies that prove FOR A FACT that HGH will heal + make tendons & Ligaments stronger?

Alot of $ and Risks just to decide to do on a few peoples personal experiences.

**Ufa** · 07-22-2006, 02:34 PM

Originally Posted by Hellmask

+ Does anybody know of any scientific studies that prove FOR A FACT that HGH will heal + make tendons & Ligaments stronger?

Alot of $ and Risks just to decide to do on a few peoples personal experiences.

Looks like it's your last chance. It's healed a couple of buldging disc's
in my lower back. It is a healer and everyone seems to have a different
experience. It certainly won't hurt. Try an advance search, seems I've
read a couple of threads in regards to this very same topic. Good Luck!

**Hellmaskbanned** · 07-22-2006, 02:46 PM

It is my last chance!

Can anyone post a scientific article/s or a link showing HGH thereapy does actually Heal tendons/Ligaments.

Will be greatly appreciated!

**vermin** · 07-22-2006, 02:57 PM

You can look at WebMD - and others - the fact is, it is commonly used post op by orthopedists, once they have their hooks in you, so to speak. This really is not the question you need to worry about IMHO, as it is not really controversial. The question is - is it likely to help a basically healthy 21 yo? For me to say that it has helped me with injuries I was told could only be helped by surgery - at 39 - does not necessarily mean much to you, as for me it is essentially as if I was healing like I was 21 again....

I think you should talk to an anti-aging doc about this. They usually start with 30yo+ patients, but may consider you anyway due to your injury. Even call Oasis if you don't have a local candidate - they can probably tell within a couple minutes if they could consider you a candidate as a patient.

**Hellmaskbanned** · 07-22-2006, 03:01 PM

Originally Posted by vermin

You can look at WebMD - and others - the fact is, it is commonly used post op by orthopedists, once they have their hooks in you, so to speak. This really is not the question you need to worry about IMHO, as it is not really controversial. The question is - is it likely to help a basically healthy 21 yo? For me to say that it has helped me with injuries I was told could only be helped by surgery - at 39 - does not necessarily mean much to you, as for me it is essentially as if I was healing like I was 21 again....

I think you should talk to an anti-aging doc about this. They usually start with 30yo+ patients, but may consider you anyway due to your injury. Even call Oasis if you don't have a local candidate - they can probably tell within a couple minutes if they could consider you a candidate as a patient.

I'm scared to see what Oasis would charge for HGH!
There other stuff is so expensive but I might just have to for the right guidence and for sure pure HGH.
THanks

**vermin** · 07-22-2006, 04:40 PM

Well, they are expensive compared to UGL/international pharmacies, but for legit US scripts they seem more or less in line. It seems like $7-8 an IU is failry typical under those circumstances, and I think you should be able to get that from them. If you are looking at trying 12 weeks at maybe 2.5 IU EOD - say 120 IU - it really would not be too bad.

**fossilfuel7** · 07-22-2006, 06:27 PM

Originally Posted by Hellmask

Hey fossilfuel,

How did you get your docter to start HGH? Or was it his idea in the first place?

Thanks

Actually he does GH anti-aging therapy for his older patients.

I am only 24 and have a nice stack of medical records showing all of the pointless therapies and NSAID's which helped me convince him.

I showed him numerous studies showing that GH could help.

He also gave prescribed GH to someone about my age with bulging disc and it worked for them.

Most doctors are incompetent about the issue of using GH though.

**fossilfuel7** · 07-22-2006, 06:49 PM

Also....the notion by many seems to be that if your over 30 than you are an old geezer and that is the only way taking GH would help heal a chronic tendon problem..

That is a bunch of crap

I know guys that are 30-40 and there natural GH levels are not much lower than mine and mine are very high naturally.

normal range low=700-2250=high.......mine=2650=very high

Many try to justify getting GH because they are over 30 and they are withering away...so to speak.

I have high GH levels for my age(24)(had it tested) and my tendon problem won't heal(tendonosis is what it is called).

I have had my problem since I was 19 and it never would go away

It's deep in the dip of my left elbow and on the epocondyle of my right elbow.

The reason GH can work for old injuries is because you are giving your body a supraphysiological amount of GH(depending on dose)(which is abnormal..thus causing abnormal healing, increased abnormal collagen synthesis and connective tissue building) even if you are young.

Hope this helps.

Good luck with finding a doctor who is not incompetent

Keep in mind you could get GH yourself and administer sub Q....although you would not be able to do spot injections( I would have a doctor do that for sure).

**Hellmaskbanned** · 07-22-2006, 07:56 PM

Originally Posted by fossilfuel7

Also....the notion by many seems to be that if your over 30 than you are an old geezer and that is the only way taking GH would help heal a chronic tendon problem..

That is a bunch of crap

I know guys that are 30-40 and there natural GH levels are not much lower than mine and mine are very high naturally.

normal range low=700-2250=high.......mine=2650=very high

Many try to justify getting GH because they are over 30 and they are withering away...so to speak.

I have high GH levels for my age(24)(had it tested) and my tendon problem won't heal(tendonosis is what it is called).

I have had my problem since I was 19 and it never would go away

It's deep in the dip of my left elbow and on the epocondyle of my right elbow.

The reason GH can work for old injuries is because you are giving your body a supraphysiological amount of GH(depending on dose)(which is abnormal..thus causing abnormal healing, increased abnormal collagen synthesis and connective tissue building) even if you are young.

Hope this helps.

Good luck with finding a doctor who is not incompetent

Keep in mind you could get GH yourself and administer sub Q....although you would not be able to do spot injections( I would have a doctor do that for sure).

Your Info has helped ALOT! Thanks buddy.

LOL to the docter thing. I don't think I will be so lucky as you were.
I'll probably end up doing it myself.....Wish I could do the spot injections myself, but I don't know exactly where to hit. So out goes that idea then.

Just because I don't do spot injections doesn't mean it won't heal just about the same right?

Again your info has been very helpful.

Any others have any input on what has been said or what hasn't?

**fossilfuel7** · 07-23-2006, 12:20 AM

Originally Posted by Hellmask

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Your Info has helped ALOT! Thanks buddy.

LOL to the docter thing. I don't think I will be so lucky as you were.
I'll probably end up doing it myself.....Wish I could do the spot injections myself, but I don't know exactly where to hit. So out goes that idea then.

Just because I don't do spot injections doesn't mean it won't heal just about the same right?

Again your info has been very helpful.

Any others have any input on what has been said or what hasn't?

No problem...glad I can help.

I want to stress that GH is not some kind of miracle drug..but, over time it could be very beneficial for you(IMO).

Look at Barry Bonds..how do you think he has kept going at his level for so long with all of the injuries he has had??

Heck..he is a monster compared to what he was in his early twenties.

"Just because I don't do spot injections doesn't mean it won't heal just about the same right?"

Well, I have heard different opinions on spot injecting..but, I know there are doctors who perform a procedure called Prolotherapy for people with problems like us

and it involves spot injecting the area with different proliferants(sometimes GH depending on the doctor).

Anyway... I know doctors who swear by it and a few patients too.

To sum it up for you...spot injections every couple of weeks may work a little quicker if you are also injecting sub q everyday.............but, you should get maximum results injecting just sub q 5/2 protocol also.

I know others on this board have reported there tendon problems healing up just fine after years of pain by doing the sub q 5/2 protocol(no spot injecting).