Anybody try IGF at this dose?

**suckysucky** · 08-15-2006, 11:16 AM

Been researching alot on IGF. Mr. Sparkle says i can get good results with only having to buy 1mg = 1000mcg which i could get at steroid -peptides.com. It says for a beginer to use only 40mcg only PWO. I work out 5 days a week, that being said it will last a total of 5 weeks.
My question is this...
Can I really expect good gains while doing it
1)at 40 mcg a day?
2) and only PWO so it would be only Monday- Friday?

I ask this because i will give IGF a shot if i can get results with only having to purchase 1mg at $175 but spending 350+ is kind of ridiculous, i rather just save it up for another test cycle.

Thanks so much for your help fellas.

**rodge** · 08-15-2006, 11:22 AM

my first run were at 50mcg for 4 weeks in wich i saw some decent results but i must say that i seem to respond pretty well to lr3 igf-1. most don't see anything untill they reach 80mcg. however i almost always run it 5/2 this way i can run it at a higher dose per day with the same amount of lr3.

-rodge

**suckysucky** · 08-15-2006, 11:30 AM

Thanx for the quick response still debating if it is worth the money though. Off to research some more! thanx again

**rodge** · 08-15-2006, 11:33 AM

depending on how much you pay for it,its def worth the money imo.

-rodge

**suckysucky** · 08-15-2006, 11:56 AM

Hey rodge, what do you think about only taking PWO, so five days a week?
O ya-$175=1000mcg

**rodge** · 08-15-2006, 12:00 PM

i always run it mon-fri as that fits my workout schedule, taking the weekend off from having to inject myself wich is nice for a change

-rodge

**suckysucky** · 08-15-2006, 12:02 PM

gotcha, thanx bro

**suckysucky** · 08-15-2006, 12:09 PM

Rog, I hate to be a pain in the a$$ i just got one last question about injections? Do YOU do them in the muscle just worked PWO? and is it similiar to shooting AAS deep into the muscle, and having to aspirate , thanx alot, your of much help

**rodge** · 08-15-2006, 12:16 PM

no problem mate thats why were here for, to help each other out.

i shoot it pwo with a slinpin in a place were i know i can go deep in the muscle with such short needle. so i alternate between left and right bicep as that is the place were my fat/skin is the thinnest and it also happens to be the easyest placefor me to shoot it. no need for shooting muscle worked out as lr3 has no side enhancement.

and yes i do aspirate .

-rodge

***JohnnyB*** · 08-16-2006, 08:50 PM

My first run was 40mcg, but I have low HGH/IGF-1

JohnnyB

**suckysucky** · 08-16-2006, 10:17 PM

Originally Posted by JohnnyB

My first run was 40mcg, but I have low HGH/IGF-1

JohnnyB

Howd that work out for ya?

**Gear** · 08-17-2006, 12:37 AM

It's all about experimenting when you doing something for the first time. I would start on 40mcg p/day PWO only 5 days ON, 2 days OFF for 4 weeks, and see how you react. It is possible that you won't need much more than 40 - 50mcg p/day, so higher doeses may be unnecessary and that's why I'm recomending to start on 40mcg p/day.

-Gear

**ss01** · 08-17-2006, 12:10 PM

I have loved every run at 40mcg immediately postworkout IN THE MUSCLE TRAINED FOR SITE-SPECIFIC GROWTH. Which worked splendidly. $175 is really a high price for the stuff. $120 is more reasonable. Buying quantity you can get it for like $60.

**Maldorf** · 08-17-2006, 03:38 PM

I personally didnt see much from 40mcg/day. I ran it again at 80 mcg/day and did see some decent results. I injected 40mcg in the morning upon waking and 40mcg preworkout. I then did 12 IU insulin PWO. So for me the threshold for results was higher than 40mcg/day but I wouldnt shy away from giving it a try for a few weeks at that dose. There is no site specific growth from using this IGF. I tested this by doing every single injection, 2x per day too, into my left lagging bicep. I did this for 2 cycles of 4 weeks each. At the end my left arm grew no more than my right arm did. It never caught up!

***SPIKE*** · 08-17-2006, 05:55 PM

Some good info up above. It's all about trying it out and seeing what works for you. As most I didnt see anything at 40mcg. As soon as I bumped it up to 80mcg I was rockin' and rollin'.

Some see decent results at 40mcg but across the board I have noticed that the more you use the better the gains. I'll never use under 80mcg and 100mcg is my magic number.

**ss01** · 08-18-2006, 07:01 AM

Originally Posted by Maldorf

I personally didnt see much from 40mcg/day. I ran it again at 80 mcg/day and did see some decent results. I injected 40mcg in the morning upon waking and 40mcg preworkout. I then did 12 IU insulin PWO. So for me the threshold for results was higher than 40mcg/day but I wouldnt shy away from giving it a try for a few weeks at that dose. There is no site specific growth from using this IGF. I tested this by doing every single injection, 2x per day too, into my left lagging bicep. I did this for 2 cycles of 4 weeks each. At the end my left arm grew no more than my right arm did. It never caught up!

Firstly, to get the site-specific effects, you must pin IMMEDIATELY postworkout in the muscle trained.

Secondly, no matter if you take 50 mcg or 500mcg, it will take months after you finish your IGF-1 until all the results are had.

How about now, has your bicep caught up? How long ago was this?

**Maldorf** · 08-18-2006, 09:19 AM

Originally Posted by ss01

Firstly, to get the site-specific effects, you must pin IMMEDIATELY postworkout in the muscle trained.

Secondly, no matter if you take 50 mcg or 500mcg, it will take months after you finish your IGF-1 until all the results are had.

How about now, has your bicep caught up? How long ago was this?

It has been about 7 months since I took the IGF. Just measured both arms and the size difference between the two is about the same as before. All of the research I have seen states that the lr3 IGF has such a long half life that it affects the entire body, unlike the IGF that first came out and had a very short half life. I believe that there is no such thing as site specific growth with lr3IGF or aas. Ive tried them all and nothing worked. Only thing you do get is temporary swelling, and that goes down after a few days.

**Carlito B** · 08-21-2006, 07:43 PM

I respond well to at least 80mcgs daily and injected sub-q seems to favor fat loss.

Thanks,

C

**needbigguns** · 08-23-2006, 09:05 AM

did any ov you see weight/mass gains from IGF and are they common or is it just mainly for Fat Loss...weight/size/mass is what im looking for (even though i know it will not be much)... could MGF be the better option ? from posts on this board MGF seams a little dogie as some people no results where as most DO see results from IGF-1 - i would be running it at 100mg ED monday-friday PWO - i want to gain 2-4lbs in PCT of possible...

**needbigguns** · 01-02-2007, 11:01 AM

Should i see decent results from IGF @ 80mcg 5x a week - Mon, Weds, Friday for 5 weeks ?

**vitor** · 01-02-2007, 01:47 PM

I started to run IGF at 50mcg ed, and wasnt really to impressed so far...

Then I increased it to 80mcg ed for 3 more weeks and the results where on, "insane pumps",
lost some BF to w/o changing diet/training.

**ss01** · 01-02-2007, 09:42 PM

Originally Posted by Maldorf

It has been about 7 months since I took the IGF. Just measured both arms and the size difference between the two is about the same as before. All of the research I have seen states that the lr3 IGF has such a long half life that it affects the entire body, unlike the IGF that first came out and had a very short half life. I believe that there is no such thing as site specific growth with lr3IGF or aas. Ive tried them all and nothing worked. Only thing you do get is temporary swelling, and that goes down after a few days.

Keep on believing, chum, until you try it IMMEDIATELY postworkout and then you will KNOW.

**needbigguns** · 01-03-2007, 02:41 AM

How long do you think it takes after IGF to see the gains.... i mean i know you dont see anything amazing when taking it, but from producing the new cells, will the effects then be seen next cycle ?

**Skills** · 01-04-2007, 05:05 AM

Originally Posted by ss01

Keep on believing, chum, until you try it IMMEDIATELY postworkout and then you will KNOW.

Mate, when you say IMMEDIATELY are you saying something like this. Smash the muscle you are going to pin last in the gym. Walk out of gym, grap a loaded pick and pin within, say, 2 minutes or less? Does this qualify?

Thx, Skills.

**needbigguns** · 01-04-2007, 10:37 AM

Originally Posted by needbigguns

How long do you think it takes after IGF to see the gains.... i mean i know you dont see anything amazing when taking it, but from producing the new cells, will the effects then be seen next cycle ?

Bump

**stayinstacked** · 01-04-2007, 11:19 AM

my buddy ran his at 40mcg eod and got5 exceptional results

**needbigguns** · 01-04-2007, 12:25 PM

The fat loss does not interest me, got my BF done today and im 10% ! Verry happy about that - but IGF interests me more in regards to the new mass in future cycles due to new cells etc...

**ss01** · 01-05-2007, 02:45 PM

Originally Posted by Skills

Mate, when you say IMMEDIATELY are you saying something like this. Smash the muscle you are going to pin last in the gym. Walk out of gym, grap a loaded pick and pin within, say, 2 minutes or less? Does this qualify?

Thx, Skills.

Yes, within 5 minutes is considered immediate.

Originally Posted by needbigguns

How long do you think it takes after IGF to see the gains.... i mean i know you dont see anything amazing when taking it, but from producing the new cells, will the effects then be seen next cycle ?

Excellent questions. There will always be IGF-bashers because it takes a while for all the benefits to materialize. Long enough that you will almost never see someone do IGF solo then stay off everything for long enough to see all the benefits. We all have a forthcoming cycle, which is fine, but it muddies the waters when assessing the gains from just the IGF-1. What I see a lot of, is guys using IGF-1 in their PCT and liking it, and then when they get on the next cycle they are all amazed at how good their gear is, when it's the foundation laid by the previous IGF that finally shows itself. Some guys get even so twisted as to then decide that IGF-1 isn't worth the money when they can get those kinds of results with just gear. Crazy, I know. But gear trains us to think that what we get now is all that we get, whereas peptides are a totally different animal.

I think 3-6 months is a reasonable amount of time provided you also use AAS. 6-9 months or more when staying natural.

**Skills** · 01-06-2007, 04:24 AM

Just another question for ss01. I understand that IGF LR3 shuffles nutrients to the muscles like insulin . My question is about diet after pinning. Should one treat it the same as insulin and avoid all fats? And if so, for how long? Thx Skills.

**fred9** · 01-06-2007, 08:47 AM

results really depends how you react on it..
but also the other things you take..was a study which said that igf or hgh alone will give you 4 times less results then igf+hgh together..(in lean mass)

**needbigguns** · 01-06-2007, 02:36 PM

Originally Posted by fred9

results really depends how you react on it..
but also the other things you take..was a study which said that igf or hgh alone will give you 4 times less results then igf+hgh together..(in lean mass)

- Can you please post the study... Does anyone else agree IGF is better taken with HGH for Lean mass... im 22 and cannot decide wether or not to go HGH @ 4iu's ED with IGF every month or so, or just forget the HGH and buy more IGF due to age and gains etc... have a look at my other post in regards to this : Age : 22 - IGF-1 or HGH...