Starting HGH!

**Superhuman** · 10-31-2006, 11:42 AM

Okay i've been wanting for long time and I'm finally getting some HGH. As of right now, I will be running 4ius/day 5 days on 2 days off for 3 months (assuming I go to boot camp in february). If I don't got to basic training in feb and it's delayed until May then I'll run the HGH for 6 months. What do you guys think of this?? I am not running any AAS right now but I may add Test, Tren , and Anadrol to this cycle after I get tested @ MEPS in the next couple weeks.

What can I expect from the GH? I've heard some people say they gained 80lbs in 6 months and other crazy gains like that, as if HGH was some kind of bodybuilding miracle. Other people have said that I will actually lose weight because of all the fat loss and I will slowly gain muscle over time but the muscle will be permanent. What do you guys think and what have your experiences been like? Thanks

Oh, and one more question: would it be smart to run some kind of secretagogue when I get off the HGH to boost my natural levels back up kinda like HCG for test?

**death45456** · 10-31-2006, 12:02 PM

80lbs in 6 months? doubt it, unless they never traied before that point...use insulin with it if you want the most gains. also..no such thing as permanant gains, come of the drugs, lose size. unless your small to begin with. keeping gains is a myth.

**Superhuman** · 10-31-2006, 02:01 PM

Originally Posted by death45456

80lbs in 6 months? doubt it, unless they never traied before that point...use insulin with it if you want the most gains. also..no such thing as permanant gains, come of the drugs, lose size. unless your small to begin with. keeping gains is a myth.

well i've never lost muscle after a cycle of AAS so i think that all gains ARE permanent... the only think you lose after a cycle is the extra water that you were retaining - which could be over 15lbs. Honestly that doesn't make any sense - where does the muscle go, is it just like "hey no more synthetic test in the body so we're just gonna shrink". If you keep lifting as hard or harder when you get off and start PCT and keep an immaculate diet you shouldn't lose an ounce of muscle. That's just from my experience.

**Superhuman** · 10-31-2006, 02:03 PM

can anybody answer my question though of what to expect? anybody have any experience using HGH?

***perfectbeast2001*** · 10-31-2006, 02:10 PM

I am using it now. have been for last three months. I have used it in conjunction with a variety of AS and peptides so it is difficult for me to single out GH as a miracle drug. I would say it has made a big difference for my bulking cycle as I feel it has helped me to keep lean while gaining muscle. I would not expect any big muscle gains with GH but rather a decrease in fat and improved sleep and recovery. Have you thought about running some T4 along with it? Well I will let you know how I get on with GH without AS. My last AS shot was on saturday. Good luck man!

**Superhuman** · 10-31-2006, 02:15 PM

yes please keep me posted! you look a hell of a lot bigger now than you did in your last pic so i'd say it's working for sure

. Excuse my ignorance, but what is T4?

**da wiz** · 10-31-2006, 02:42 PM

Originally Posted by perfectbeast2001

I am using it now. have been for last three months. I have used it in conjunction with a variety of AS and peptides so it is difficult for me to single out GH as a miracle drug. I would say it has made a big difference for my bulking cycle as I feel it has helped me to keep lean while gaining muscle. I would not expect any big muscle gains with GH but rather a decrease in fat and improved sleep and recovery. Have you thought about running some T4 along with it? Well I will let you know how I get on with GH without AS. My last AS shot was on saturday. Good luck man!

do you mind me asking how many iu are you taking?

**rodge** · 10-31-2006, 02:47 PM

Originally Posted by Superhuman

Excuse my ignorance, but what is T4?

t4 is thyroid hormone. we used to run t3 with hgh but t4 seems to be better.

-rodge

***perfectbeast2001*** · 10-31-2006, 02:50 PM

I am taking 4iu ED 5 on 2 off. I find the sides become quite uncomfortable if I try to increase this dose. I suffer terribly from numb/aching hands which has been so bad at higher dose it stopped me sleeping.
T4 is a thyroid hormone. I believe GH is supposed to suppress thyroid hormones so many use either low dose t3 or t4. I use t4 100mcg ED.

**rodge** · 10-31-2006, 02:54 PM

dont expect to much of running hgh in terms of muscle gain esp at that dose and for that time. i would suggest to run it atleast 7/7. if you can run it for 6 months then switch to 5/2 if need to.

-rodge

**RJstrong** · 10-31-2006, 03:00 PM

I've been on for almost a year... I'm definitely more muscular and ripped. skin always feels tight. as far as weight gain I have stayed the same however there is a definite change in my physique from losing body fat and adding lean mass... biggest thing really is how vascular I look compared to a year ago. you will like it but its gradual so be patient. on a side note I do train and compete in powerlifting so weight gain isn't something I'm striving for. I'm currently weighing 240 and lean as ever so I'm liking it... a must IMO if you are at the proper age to use and can afford it!!!

**Superhuman** · 10-31-2006, 04:53 PM

is t3 or t4 really necessary while on GH if GH is supposed to be so amazing for fat burning?

What if I take test, tren , and anadrol with it and eat like 10k calories a day do you think I can gain 40lbs and lose like 5% bodyfat in 3 months? Even if it's a placebo effect since I've heard so much great stuff about Growth I seriously want to be 280 in 3 months @ like 5% bodyfat by the time I hit basic training

***perfectbeast2001*** · 10-31-2006, 05:13 PM

Originally Posted by Superhuman

is t3 or t4 really necessary while on GH if GH is supposed to be so amazing for fat burning?

What if I take test, tren , and anadrol with it and eat like 10k calories a day do you think I can gain 40lbs and lose like 5% bodyfat in 3 months? Even if it's a placebo effect since I've heard so much great stuff about Growth I seriously want to be 280 in 3 months @ like 5% bodyfat by the time I hit basic training

according to some t4 makes GH more effective. Check out T4 and GH by anthony roberts. Hes not my favourite person but his article makes quite a bit of sense to me.
It will certainly help you keep leaner while on a bulking cycle, not sure about 40lb gains though LOL!

**da wiz** · 10-31-2006, 06:10 PM

Originally Posted by perfectbeast2001

I am taking 4iu ED 5 on 2 off. I find the sides become quite uncomfortable if I try to increase this dose. I suffer terribly from numb/aching hands which has been so bad at higher dose it stopped me sleeping.
T4 is a thyroid hormone. I believe GH is supposed to suppress thyroid hormones so many use either low dose t3 or t4. I use t4 100mcg ED.

thanks for the reply.

**rodge** · 11-01-2006, 12:29 AM

Originally Posted by perfectbeast2001

. Hes not my favourite person but his article makes quite a bit of sense to me.

agree

-rodge

**peteroy01** · 11-01-2006, 09:50 AM

question- wont T4 shut ur natural levels down for life if u take it to long(GH long cycle). and if u get the GH from a doc will he give u T4 with the GH?

Superhuman- what basic training r u going to?

***perfectbeast2001*** · 11-01-2006, 09:58 AM

Originally Posted by peteroy01

question- wont T4 shut ur natural levels down for life if u take it to long(GH long cycle). and if u get the GH from a doc will he give u T4 with the GH?

Superhuman- what basic training r u going to?

No the T4 wil not shut you down for life. There is no evidence that I am aware of to suggest it would. As far as I know the doc won't give you t4 with your GH.

**1buffsob** · 11-01-2006, 11:31 AM

Originally Posted by Superhuman

Okay i've been wanting for long time and I'm finally getting some HGH. As of right now, I will be running 4ius/day 5 days on 2 days off for 3 months (assuming I go to boot camp in february). If I don't got to basic training in feb and it's delayed until May then I'll run the HGH for 6 months. What do you guys think of this?? I am not running any AAS right now but I may add Test, Tren, and Anadrol to this cycle after I get tested @ MEPS in the next couple weeks.

What can I expect from the GH? I've heard some people say they gained 80lbs in 6 months and other crazy gains like that, as if HGH was some kind of bodybuilding miracle. Other people have said that I will actually lose weight because of all the fat loss and I will slowly gain muscle over time but the muscle will be permanent. What do you guys think and what have your experiences been like? Thanks

Oh, and one more question: would it be smart to run some kind of secretagogue when I get off the HGH to boost my natural levels back up kinda like HCG for test?

MEPs won't test for aas. I passed taking my shots the night before.

**Superhuman** · 11-01-2006, 12:40 PM

Originally Posted by 1buffsob

MEPs won't test for aas. I passed taking my shots the night before.

i heard that they test like 10% of the specimens for AAS or something like that. I also heard that the CO has authority and that if you look like a juicer he can specifically request that your specimen be tested for AAS. The only reason this is so important is that if you fail a drug test once for the military you are never allowed to try again, EVER.

**peteroy01** · 11-01-2006, 03:32 PM

dude if ur 240 ur gonna stick out like a sore thumb at meps. i wouldnt risk it. u will have plenty of time to juice after u get in. I went through 2.5 cycles while in USMC. ive taken 8piss test while AAS. they dont care so much when ur in. they only care if ur selling then ur chain of command wont touch u, they will call the NCIS(Naval Criminal Investication Service) and u will be investigated. Undercover dudes they sneak into ur company. And if ur going to the Marines, Navy or Army u wont have time to train during Basic. With the Airforce i think u can go to the gym.