insulin, igf, hgh

**odix** · 11-23-2006, 12:54 AM

are these gains all keepable? with people experience, and some results im seeing, why even use aas when this shit is out? does this actually make you stronger or look bigger.

**C_Bino** · 11-23-2006, 01:25 AM

Wrong forum buddy. I will move this for you now.

**C_Bino** · 11-23-2006, 01:27 AM

And to answer your question...you ask why do people even use AAS? Well for one they will put more muscle on you in a shorter amount of time than any of the peptides you mentioned will.
And are gains keepable? Well if you keep up with proper diet and training sure. Nothing is ever 100% keepable no matter what means you use to achieve it, if your body isnt receiving an adequate amount of calories and training for growth or at least maintenance you will not keep all the muscle no matter if it was gained naturally, through AAS, though HGH, through IGF whatever.

**Hunter** · 11-23-2006, 01:29 AM

Insulin is very dangerous substance you need quite a few cycles. IGf and Hgh is are great tools but unless your very experianced leave the slin out. Carlos who is very experianced has talked about a scary incident dont use it unless you know exactly what you are doing.

***Narkissos*** · 11-23-2006, 03:38 PM

Originally Posted by mn_fighter

Insulin is very dangerous substance you need quite a few cycles.

Why would you 'need quite a few cycles?'

Insulin isn't dangerous... Ignorance is.

Originally Posted by mn_fighter

Carlos who is very experianced has talked about a scary incident dont use it unless you know exactly what you are doing.

I think when you use examples.. you should have your facts straight.

No flame to Carlos.. but he's far from 'experienced' with insulin. To my knowledge, he used it once.. and that's when the hypoglemic episode (which was easily avoidable) occurred. You can address him for confirmation.

I on the other hand.. have run only a limited steroid cycles. (For personal and professional reasons).. but have run a number of insulin cycles.

Its use requires discipline; an attention to detail (i.e. BG response.. symptoms if any); and education on the compound

On IGF/slin.. i find the gains keepable.. but the quantity of gains are in no way comparable to AAS

Nark

***SPIKE*** · 11-23-2006, 05:12 PM

Originally Posted by Narkissos

Insulin isn't dangerous... Ignorance is.

You beat me to this one Nark.

MN, it's typically the ones that have never used Slin that will advocate is as a dangerous drug. Even the most experienced ones when giving out info will finalize their writing stating that it's dangerous just to make sure people do their homework.

I have ran Insulin more times then I've logged inot my AR account. As long as you are aware of what you're doing then there wont be any problems.

What I can recommend to others is to make sure they read up and understadn the drug before even considering using it. It can be very danergous but if you know what you're doing it's just like anything else.

**C_Bino** · 11-24-2006, 08:59 AM

Originally Posted by Jayhova

You beat me to this one Nark.

MN, it's typically the ones that have never used Slin that will advocate is as a dangerous drug. Even the most experienced ones when giving out info will finalize their writing stating that it's dangerous just to make sure people do their homework.

I have ran Insulin more times then I've logged inot my AR account. As long as you are aware of what you're doing then there wont be any problems.

What I can recommend to others is to make sure they read up and understadn the drug before even considering using it. It can be very danergous but if you know what you're doing it's just like anything else.

YYEEEE-AAAHHH. OOO KKKK!

For sure though, slin is pretty harmless imo if you know what you are doing. Hell its active for like an hour if you use Hlog. I have gone more hypo using LR3 to be honest.

***Narkissos*** · 11-24-2006, 09:19 AM

bump!

**Property of Steroid.com** · 11-24-2006, 09:28 AM

Originally Posted by C_Bino

YYEEEE-AAAHHH. OOO KKKK!

For sure though, slin is pretty harmless imo if you know what you are doing. Hell its active for like an hour if you use Hlog. I have gone more hypo using LR3 to be honest.

Intersting that you'd bring that point up...I recently had my urine tested for Ketones when I was on an IGF/MGF cycle, and was found to have a very high level in my urine, similar to that shown by Diabetics. This is something that I never experienced with Insulin .

**fred9** · 11-24-2006, 12:06 PM

Originally Posted by Anthony Roberts

Intersting that you'd bring that point up...I recently had my urine tested for Ketones when I was on an IGF/MGF cycle, and was found to have a very high level in my urine, similar to that shown by Diabetics. This is something that I never experienced with Insulin.

thats not quite strange...everyone know u should not take fat while the slin is active...so there's no change that some get acidose...

probally while u run igf/mgf u have more fat in ur system in comparison with slin...thus this can result in ketones in ur blood/urine..