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    Whats up with my HGH..Hygetropin?

    I have been on HGH (hygetropin) for the past 2 1/2 months 2.5iu ed..... I had my Igf-1 levels checked prior to starting hgh which came back at 158..... recently about 1 week ago I had another blood test done to check my Igf-1 and it came back 156..... WTF???? why has my igf-1/gh not increased?

    I have hygetropin, bought directly from their site and I used the pregnancy test on one vial to ensure I have HGH and not HCG ... the test came back negative indicating that my hgh should be real... any ideas? thanx

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    have you lost fat . 2.5 iu a day is more for fat loose, not sure how much it should raise test levels.

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    Jintropin took a guy on another board from the low 100's to over 400 in 6 weeks so I am assuming your dosage and length of time should have been long enough.

    Are you feeling anything? sides?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Billytk03z
    I have been on HGH (hygetropin) for the past 2 1/2 months 2.5iu ed..... I had my Igf-1 levels checked prior to starting hgh which came back at 158..... recently about 1 week ago I had another blood test done to check my Igf-1 and it came back 156..... WTF???? why has my igf-1/gh not increased?

    I have hygetropin, bought directly from their site and I used the pregnancy test on one vial to ensure I have HGH and not HCG... the test came back negative indicating that my hgh should be real... any ideas? thanx
    I've been on Hygetropin at 4IUs ED (5on, 2off) for 4 months and haven't seen much of anything. Just because it's not HCG doesn't mean it's not bunk. Shoot me a pm when you get a chance.

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    I've got a feeling that the first few batches of hyge were excellent due to all of the positive feedback we all saw around the time it came out. Later batches hmmmmmm??

    I stopped taking it and went back to jins myself

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    well, i have 3 kits left so I am not against sending a vial off to have it tested.... does anyone know of a lab to do this? I use SRC labs for my aas but they dont do hgh yet?

    I am really starting to think my hgh is bunk..... I hope not!! my doc even said it should of raised my levels a little.....

    Im with bigdylan on this one... I havent noticed much of anything as well.. In the beginning I can honestly say that my libido improved and so did my sleep but as far as fat burning and such, nothing else.....

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    im 600 IU's into hygetropin since september and they work..my skin is better, my hair on my head is definitely thicker and Ive leaned out a lot, especially in the mid section, i really noticed it when I added T4 along with it as well. I dont have any sides like bloating or CTS, but Ive seen results and so have my friends that have been on it. Not sure why youre not responding to it. I have been running 5 IUs 5on/2off since sept.

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    maybe I need up the IU's.... I guess Ill bump up to 4iu's for a month and see what happens.....

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    2.5iu /day wont do anything visible at all, minimum 4iu/day and as for testing hgh it is not 100$, more like 1000$ or so from what i hear

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    I've been on Hygetropin for 1 month, I not long enough to see any results. I started out 4ius and had to drop it down to 2ius because it was really giving me alot of sinus pressure kind of feeling in my head. I didn't test mine with a pregnancy test or anything like that but I do know one thing for sure is that within 15/20 minutes after I pin my blood sugar drops, right now I've been taking 2.5ius ed for the last wk.

    I was told by RedBaron that the reason that my blood sugar drops is because of the conversion to IGF or something like that. I just didnt realise that gh effects IGF that fast.

    I get some tingling in my hands but not much and an occasional hand and ankle swelling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Billytk03z
    I have been on HGH (hygetropin) for the past 2 1/2 months 2.5iu ed..... I had my Igf-1 levels checked prior to starting hgh which came back at 158..... recently about 1 week ago I had another blood test done to check my Igf-1 and it came back 156..... WTF???? why has my igf-1/gh not increased?

    I have hygetropin, bought directly from their site and I used the pregnancy test on one vial to ensure I have HGH and not HCG... the test came back negative indicating that my hgh should be real... any ideas? thanx
    You got burned! I use FDA approved stuff. Lots of fakes out there.
    Sorry!

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    Can you post pics of your gh, boxes and vials?

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    If it does not increase your IGF levels it is a rip off no matter how
    fancy the bottles are. BTW thanks for posting this, I will never
    consider this stuff.

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    I didnt notice any results with Hygetropin til I upped it to at least 8iu's eod. Went up to 12iu's and my hands started killing me so I went back down to 8.

    From a couple people that I have heard use it mentioned that Hygetropin isnt too strong. Even though its cheap the strength is low and you have to use twice as much.

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    Jino raised my igf from about 190 almost 400 at 2.5 ius.

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    Quote Originally Posted by doublefister
    I didnt notice any results with Hygetropin til I upped it to at least 8iu's eod. Went up to 12iu's and my hands started killing me so I went back down to 8.

    From a couple people that I have heard use it mentioned that Hygetropin isnt too strong. Even though its cheap the strength is low and you have to use twice as much.

    Do you notice any difference in running it eod compare to ed?

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    Just got my bloodwork back.
    Been on 8iu EOD of Hygetropin for many months now.
    Insulin -like Growth Factor 1: 170

    I stopped HGH 02/07/07 did bloodwork 02/13/07

    Also been taking 25mg T3 ed for month and all thyroid levels normal.

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    Wow, looks like morgan got burned as well. With 8 iu's your IGF levels
    should be off the charts.

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    Your IGF levels won't stay peaked for very long after injection... it isn't igf-1lr3 that has a half life of 16 hours...your bodies natural IGF half life is like 3 minutes

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    Quote Originally Posted by MorganKane
    Just got my bloodwork back.
    Been on 8iu EOD of Hygetropin for many months now.
    Insulin -like Growth Factor 1: 170

    I stopped HGH 02/07/07 did bloodwork 02/13/07

    Also been taking 25mg T3 ed for month and all thyroid levels normal.
    Shouldn't your IGF levels be much higher then that if it's real?

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    GH doesnt stay active in your system for too long of time. I believe its only 20 minutes from what ive read so taking a test a week after your GH would not be a good sign to test if your IGF-1 levels were high to to GH usage. You should take your blood work while on the GH to see if its real or fake.

    I too have hygetropin, I am on it now and since i read this thread im going to go get a test done to see if my IGF-1 Levels are high or low. I will let everyone know what my results are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slowhand
    Your IGF levels won't stay peaked for very long after injection... it isn't igf-1lr3 that has a half life of 16 hours...your bodies natural IGF half life is like 3 minutes
    What I am thinking. I think it lasts for a hour at most. You would have to inject the HGH then run right away to get your blood drawn for the test.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slowhand
    Your IGF levels won't stay peaked for very long after injection... it isn't igf-1lr3 that has a half life of 16 hours...your bodies natural IGF half life is like 3 minutes

    It could be possible that the hyge is working but just that the igf-1 half-life is too short to be tested?

    Also, it could stand to reason that hygetropin is infact weaker than most gh's and thus more should be used......

    as of right now I upped my iu's to 4 a day and will have my IGF-1 tested again in a month........

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    billy...didnt you say you got your hygetropin directly from hygene?

    it would be like getting jins directly from gensci

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maldorf
    What I am thinking. I think it lasts for a hour at most. You would have to inject the HGH then run right away to get your blood drawn for the test.
    i had my igf-1 level tested 3 days after my jino cycle and it came back around 390 i believe. its been a while so i have to look the exact numbers up.

    -rodge

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    Quote Originally Posted by plzr8
    billy...didnt you say you got your hygetropin directly from hygene?

    it would be like getting jins directly from gensci
    Yup, I got it directly from hygene!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Microbrew
    Do you notice any difference in running it eod compare to ed?

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    Just less sides mainly. The fatigue really got to me to where I couldnt get out of bed. The T4 helps too. Right now my only side which is starting to bother me are my hands and arms getting numb and I can barely open and close my hands but it gets better once my body warms up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rodge
    i had my igf-1 level tested 3 days after my jino cycle and it came back around 390 i believe. its been a while so i have to look the exact numbers up.

    -rodge
    I got the same results after three days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rodge
    i had my igf-1 level tested 3 days after my jino cycle and it came back around 390 i believe. its been a while so i have to look the exact numbers up.

    -rodge
    That sounds likes its higher than normal. What is normal anyhow? So that shoots down the theory that IGF-1 levels are only elevated for a short time. If your numbers are elevated like that even 3 days after doing it, I am starting to wonder why we inject nearly every day of the week. Perhaps those folks that go every other day have the right idea. Ive been doing 5 on 2 off.

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    Normal levels are between 101 and 267 ng/ml

    So 390 3 days after stopping is way over normal and showing that the product he is using works.

    The HRT clinic I spoke too questioned the quality of my HGH, I did not tell them the brand or how I got it but the person was surprised to hear I used 8iu EOD when he saw the result.

    I am seriously questioning my HGH now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maldorf
    That sounds likes its higher than normal. What is normal anyhow? So that shoots down the theory that IGF-1 levels are only elevated for a short time. If your numbers are elevated like that even 3 days after doing it, I am starting to wonder why we inject nearly every day of the week. Perhaps those folks that go every other day have the right idea. Ive been doing 5 on 2 off.
    what they test for is bound igf-1 so thats more or less useless for musclebuilding properties.

    -rodge

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    Man I hate reading shit like this, especially since I just started my Hygetropin 1 month ago. I've only been on a month but my finger nails are growing really fast and I've tested my blood sugar after my hgh shots and it makes my levels drop about 15/20 after I pin. RedBaron said my blood sugar drops because of the rise in IGF levels after I pin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MorganKane
    Normal levels are between 101 and 267 ng/ml

    So 390 3 days after stopping is way over normal and showing that the product he is using works.

    The HRT clinic I spoke too questioned the quality of my HGH, I did not tell them the brand or how I got it but the person was surprised to hear I used 8iu EOD when he saw the result.

    I am seriously questioning my HGH now.
    That's really bad news bro. Have you posted your results on any of the other boards? This Hygetropin's been hyped for months.

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    Quote Originally Posted by longhorn814
    im 600 IU's into hygetropin since september and they work..my skin is better, my hair on my head is definitely thicker and Ive leaned out a lot, especially in the mid section, i really noticed it when I added T4 along with it as well. I dont have any sides like bloating or CTS, but Ive seen results and so have my friends that have been on it. Not sure why youre not responding to it. I have been running 5 IUs 5on/2off since sept.
    GH clears your skin?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SVTMuscle
    GH clears your skin?
    correct. thats my wifes favourite part of it. allthough now she is on hyge she does'nt notice much of it.

    -rodge

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    Man I'm sold.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hateme
    Jino raised my igf from about 190 almost 400 at 2.5 ius.
    How long between your injection and blood drawn?

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    Spoke to the HRT clinic about my HGH and IGF levels.
    When i told him I have been on 8iu EOD for 5+months and he saw that my IGF levels is 170, he started to laugh. He seriously questioned the quality or even if the product was HGH at all.

    I told him that it was 6 days between last injection and blood work, he said my levels should be twice what they are.

    I think I am done with hygetropin.
    I really dont see the point if my IGF hits 170 at my dosage.

    Comments anyone..

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    Quote Originally Posted by MorganKane
    Spoke to the HRT clinic about my HGH and IGF levels.
    When i told him I have been on 8iu EOD for 5+months and he saw that my IGF levels is 170, he started to laugh. He seriously questioned the quality or even if the product was HGH at all.

    I told him that it was 6 days between last injection and blood work, he said my levels should be twice what they are.

    I think I am done with hygetropin.
    I really dont see the point if my IGF hits 170 at my dosage.

    Comments anyone..

    Did you get any sides? Man at 41 years old you should really see good results.

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    Sides...
    Using jino and browntops I had the normal sides.
    The first box of hyge I used I had sides but the last 2 boxes I really have no sides at all. When I started HGH using Jino, I got so bad carpal tunnel I could not sleep for days. I had to lower the dosage. The brown tops i had the same sides, i could feel it for sure. Gave me a very odd feeling in my hands doing pullsups. Now I have no sides and cant feel that I am on.

    I kind of wrote it off as "adjusting" to the GH.
    last year I went on a long motorcycle trip while on GH and my hands would go numb while riding. Now I have none of those feelings at all.
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