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    gotjuice? is offline Associate Member
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    need a little advice

    i have been on this site for years now. and yes i actually do tons of research. problem is the more i research the more confused i am.,.....anyways here is wher i am at. i got about 350 ius of hgh. i got about 15 cc of 250 sust.......i believe i have read to start taking the hgh 1st then add the aas. question how much later do i add test.......also, sust made me break out like a little school boy. i have read that test is test then i have read that some test will break u out less. others say it depends on the person. i all of it may be true to some degree........ i am just looking for a clean aas cycle. i hate test it always fuks me up. if anyone can help me with my cycle i would really appreciate it

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    I will chime in, you will need more than 350iu of HGH, not enough for a good 6 month cycle, HGH will give you solid reliable keepable gains, and make you feel great, but it takes time bro. I would suggest at least 8iu day if you wanna make some size..I too have used AAS off/on for years. but I hate the sides, I get big then loose most/all it when im done. Since I have been on HGH ive gone(after Surgury) from 174lbs 14%fb now 2 months into HGH 180lbs %10bf stronger and feel better, with AAS it was easy to make 195lbs but I would loose it later on.

    With a good HGH cycle you will notice the gains but they take time, I would suggest 8iu day 5/2 6/1 for a good 6 months, that will put good size on you and you will feel great and get to keep the gains

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    As mentioned above, you will definitely need more HGH, but do you really need HGH? What you use and how much you use depends on what you want to achieve. If you don't have much experience with sport enhancing drugs then stick to AAS for now.

    If you do decide to use HGH + AAS, I recomend you start using AAS about 8 - 12 weeks into your HGH cycle. You can start AAS at anytime when using HGH but starting the use of AAS later allows you to elevate your IGF levels which is a really good time to introduce AAS.

    HGH starting dose is about 2 - 3IU daily, but from then on just work your way up slowly. And as for the 15ml of sustanon you have, I would say you may need a little more to set up a good cycle. How much you break out does depend on the person and how much gear they use so you won't know till you try.

    Good luck.

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    as for a clean cycle, i much prefer test enathate to sust. I used sust once, and seemed to get more sides than when i used enanthate or prop. I attribute that to the different esters in sust that make blood levels far less steady, which causes more sides

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    ok....gettin more hgh... also i am gonna switch from the sust to enathante and add some eq


    so cycle looks like this.

    hgh.....4-8 ius for 6-9 months
    500 mg of enath per week
    400mg Eq every week

    pct of course

    hows this>????

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    Start your AAS cycle about 8 - 12 weeks into your HGH cycle and you'll be right.

    Good luck.

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    looks good to me dude

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    thx guys. whats the best way to run arimidex and or nolva??

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    Quote Originally Posted by gotjuice? View Post
    thx guys. whats the best way to run arimidex and or nolva??
    Orally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PingPang View Post
    Orally.
    lol wise-ass!

    nolvadex 20-40 mg per day, arimidex 0.5-1mg per day

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