Could use some HGH help and schooling...

**Ted Stickles** · 08-11-2008, 04:06 PM

Im 36 ,5'9" around 235...im probably about 20 to 25 lbs over mostly water. Ive been hearing a lot about HGH and all of its benefits.My questions are:

1. How much do you take and how often
2. Do you take it alone or with something else
3. Are there any side effects like agression,SD,or any of the typical stereotypes
4. Is it something that could come up in a drug test,because i get randoms at my job
5. Are there different types and which is the best one to use
6. Is it good for cutting fat and muscle gains

Feel free to add any information that you feel i might need to know and i want to thank everyone in advance for the help i really appreciate it, im a total newbie to this ....

**Kelleh** · 08-11-2008, 04:34 PM

All you have to do is do a search on this site or google and do alot of research.

**"Maximus"** · 08-11-2008, 06:15 PM

Originally Posted by Ted Stickles

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Im 36 ,5'9" around 235

Not true, you're overweight dude! No offense to you, but 5'9 @ 235 and you're asking about gH... that's how I came up to that assumption; I'm just trying to help, but I need you to be honest with yourself (1st) , so you can be honest with us here

OK...

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1. How much do you take and how often
2. Do you take it alone or with something else
3. Are there any side effects like agression,SD,or any of the typical stereotypes
4. Is it something that could come up in a drug test,because i get randoms at my job
5. Are there different types and which is the best one to use
6. Is it good for cutting fat and muscle gains

1) Design a clean diet -over at the DIET forum- that you can follow everyday and most of all, that you stick to from now on. In addition, post it on the diet forum, after you've put it together, so other members can help you clean it out or offer better food choices/suggestions. 2) Develop good gym habits and sound routine. 3) Add to the mix a post workout session of 45-60 mins at your 65-75% maximum heart rate.

Having said that, assuming you manage to bring down your BF (body fat) around 18%-20% range, using gH -for the first two months daily schedule- at 2IUs, will enhance fat loss greatly. After the first two months, bring your daily dosage to 3IUs taking it 5 days [Mon-Frid], having the weekend off of it.

2) Yes, you could take it along with more potent drugs to enhance them. However, this is not aplicable in your case at the moment. gH alone, a good diet, and a superb workout routine will help you accomplish a lot.

3) No known aggresive-like side effects from gH usage, although anything is possible but I've never heard such sides from gH alone. There are sides, but they are good sides such as numbness of extremeties, deep sleep through the night, fat loss (being the most noticeable), etc...

4) Unless you're working to compete in professional sports, you shouldn't be concerned with drug screening for gH usage.

5) Yes, there is different brands and manufacturing grades. The most known are ginotropin and somatropin (please check my spelling, as I'm not sure that I'm spelling them correctly). By far, somatropin in my opinion, is the highest human-grade gH available out there, as well as the most expensive --very expensive. Gin/Jin-notropin is good too, but its concentration differs from labs/manufacturers. You might have to do further search of your own on this one.

6) a - cutting fat: Yes, it is extremely good as well as to enhance many other body functions, i.e., skin/hair texture, memory/visual aid, and the list goes on and on... b - muscle mass: Yes, but it will take you MEGA doses of gH for this, as well as a very long time (assuming that you're dieting right and have a killer workout regime) in order to get AAS-like gains on gH alone.

***FireGuy*** · 08-11-2008, 06:24 PM

If it's mostly water just take a diuretic and you should be ripped!

**Ted Stickles** · 08-11-2008, 06:38 PM

Originally Posted by "Maximus"

Not true, you're overweight dude! No offense to you, but 5'9 @ 235 and you're asking about gH... that's how I came up to that assumption; I'm just trying to help, but I need you to be honest with yourself (1st) , so you can be honest with us here

OK...

Code:

1. How much do you take and how often
2. Do you take it alone or with something else
3. Are there any side effects like agression,SD,or any of the typical stereotypes
4. Is it something that could come up in a drug test,because i get randoms at my job
5. Are there different types and which is the best one to use
6. Is it good for cutting fat and muscle gains

1) Design a clean diet -over at the DIET forum- that you can follow everyday and most of all, that you stick to from now on. In addition, post it on the diet forum, after you've put it together, so other members can help you clean it out or offer better food choices/suggestions. 2) Develop good gym habits and sound routine. 3) Add to the mix a post workout session of 45-60 mins at your 65-75% maximum heart rate.

Having said that, assuming you manage to bring down your BF (body fat) around 18%-20% range, using gH -for the first two months daily schedule- at 2IUs, will enhance fat loss greatly. After the first two months, bring your daily dosage to 3IUs taking it 5 days [Mon-Frid], having the weekend off of it.

2) Yes, you could take it along with more potent drugs to enhance them. However, this is not aplicable in your case at the moment. gH alone, a good diet, and a superb workout routine will help you accomplish a lot.

3) No known aggresive-like side effects from gH usage, although anything is possible but I've never heard such sides from gH alone. There are sides, but they are good sides such as numbness of extremeties, deep sleep through the night, fat loss (being the most noticeable), etc...

4) Unless you're working to compete in professional sports, you shouldn't be concerned with drug screening for gH usage.

5) Yes, there is different brands and manufacturing grades. The most known are ginotropin and somatropin (please check my spelling, as I'm not sure that I'm spelling them correctly). By far, somatropin in my opinion, is the highest human-grade gH available out there, as well as the most expensive --very expensive. Gin/Jin-notropin is good too, but its concentration differs from labs/manufacturers. You might have to do further search of your own on this one.

6) a - cutting fat: Yes, it is extremely good as well as to enhance many other body functions, i.e., skin/hair texture, memory/visual aid, and the list goes on and on... b - muscle mass: Yes, but it will take you MEGA doses of gH for this, as well as a very long time (assuming that you're dieting right and have a killer workout regime) in order to get AAS-like gains on gH alone.

Thanks for all of your help i really appreciate it.......Im trying to be as honest as i can my doctor is the one who told me what my target weight should be he said i have dense bone structure and a lot of muscle weight and said anywhere from 200 to 215 would be ideal for me......Anyway thanks again for all your help.........Peace,T

**Ted Stickles** · 08-11-2008, 06:40 PM

Originally Posted by FireGuy1

If it's mostly water just take a diuretic and you should be ripped!

I used to box years ago competitvely and usually the first 10 to 15 was a lot of water weight,thats what i meant i should have explained it a little better...Thanks,T

**T_Own** · 08-11-2008, 06:48 PM

to maximus: its jintropin

**Silver-Bolt** · 08-11-2008, 07:04 PM

Get you diet/food intake dialed in first. Get on a gym program that is heavy on cardio to begin with. Once you have that covered and a regular routine you will start to see to significant fat loss. Give it 6-8 weeks for the effects to really kick in. Once you get down close to your target weight and bf % then look into the GH to finish it off. Don't expect to get huge with just GH. Based on your questions you really need to spend a few days on this site study up on it. I am about 8 weeks into my first run and just starting to see the benefits. I spent more than a month learning everything I could about it before I ventured in. If nothing else you need to learn the proper use and care of the product. It is not cheap and it is very fragile. One little mistake and you could lose a bunch of $$.

**Lift_Heavy_NY** · 08-11-2008, 07:24 PM

At your age GH is a great idea, have you asked your doctor about a script?

**NycGuy** · 08-11-2008, 10:10 PM

Originally Posted by Lift_Heavy_NY

At your age GH is a great idea, have you asked your doctor about a script?

I'm 43, and my physician did give me a prescription for HGH, but my insurnce refused to pay for it.
Too expensive for me to buy at my pharmacy, so I got some from China.
I'm on my 13th week at 2 iu a day 5/2

I did feel numbness in my hands for a few weeks, but those symptoms went away.
As soon as the Olympics are over, I plan on ordering more and do 2 iu a day, 7 days a week.

**Ted Stickles** · 08-12-2008, 03:29 PM

Originally Posted by Silver-Bolt

Get you diet/food intake dialed in first. Get on a gym program that is heavy on cardio to begin with. Once you have that covered and a regular routine you will start to see to significant fat loss. Give it 6-8 weeks for the effects to really kick in. Once you get down close to your target weight and bf % then look into the GH to finish it off. Don't expect to get huge with just GH. Based on your questions you really need to spend a few days on this site study up on it. I am about 8 weeks into my first run and just starting to see the benefits. I spent more than a month learning everything I could about it before I ventured in. If nothing else you need to learn the proper use and care of the product. It is not cheap and it is very fragile. One little mistake and you could lose a bunch of $$.

Thanks man......Appreciate the help