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    Question Advice on igf 3, hgh frag, stimol, etc...

    Ok so my main goals here is to loose the gut and bump up my cardio output. Im 31, 6ft, 280lbs. Im type 2 diabetic with metabolic syndrome. Trust me i now some stuff is risky but im stubborn and will use the "good stuff" regardless!! Stimulant pills are hard for me to stomache and clen /t3 makes me puke. I can take ephedrine/caffine but i must study alternatives!!

    I could use some advice on the following since there new to me.....
    HGH fragment and other forms of HGH
    IGF 3 or even 2
    Stimol
    Liquid albuterol
    kynoselen
    any fat burner, any growth hormone advice is what im basically asking here!!

    Thanks bros!

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    if your diabetic then personally I would either talk to a doctor first or avoid those compounds completely. I know particularly that igf1lr3 can lower blood sugar and I believe HGH lowers blood sugar as well (correct me if I'm wrong). I've also heard that the HGH fragment is useless. T3 might be pretty harmless out of all those..

    but most importantly TALK TO A DOCTOR AND TELL THEM ABOUT YOUR DIABETES BEFORE USING ANY OF THOSE SUBSTANCES; ASK THEM ABOUT THE INTERACTION OF THOSE SUBSTANCES WITH YOUR DIABETES.

    Its important that you try to lose weight/build muscle the natural way first. Its not as hard as you might think, even with diabetes... mind over matter.
    Diet + Cardio will do the trick pretty quickly, if you stay committed to it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by senior_xj View Post
    Ok so my main goals here is to loose the gut and bump up my cardio output. Im 31, 6ft, 280lbs. Im type 2 diabetic with metabolic syndrome. Trust me i now some stuff is risky but im stubborn and will use the "good stuff" regardless!! Stimulant pills are hard for me to stomache and clen /t3 makes me puke. I can take ephedrine/caffine but i must study alternatives!!

    I could use some advice on the following since there new to me.....
    HGH fragment and other forms of HGH
    IGF 3 or even 2
    Stimol
    Liquid albuterol
    kynoselen
    any fat burner, any growth hormone advice is what im basically asking here!!

    Thanks bros!
    Welcome bro.

    First off, I strongly advice you to keep away from all of the above until (1) you do a lot of meaningful research (minimum a month or more) on the effects of each of those drugs and the disease you have; (2) that you start doing the right thing now, which is to develop a healthy/balanced diet and to bump up your cardio and stick to a well developed workout routine.

    If you are stubborn, and you'll end up doing whatever you think is best for you... I would really do some research first, because what good is it to do whatever you want to do, when in the end, you could potentially be harming yourself and cause you premature death? At such a young age!

    That would suck!

    Best

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    Quote Originally Posted by jg42058p View Post
    if your diabetic then personally I would either talk to a doctor first or avoid those compounds completely. I know particularly that igf1lr3 can lower blood sugar and I believe HGH lowers blood sugar as well (correct me if I'm wrong). I've also heard that the HGH fragment is useless. T3 might be pretty harmless out of all those..

    but most importantly TALK TO A DOCTOR AND TELL THEM ABOUT YOUR DIABETES BEFORE USING ANY OF THOSE SUBSTANCES; ASK THEM ABOUT THE INTERACTION OF THOSE SUBSTANCES WITH YOUR DIABETES.

    Its important that you try to lose weight/build muscle the natural way first. Its not as hard as you might think, even with diabetes... mind over matter.
    Diet + Cardio will do the trick pretty quickly, if you stay committed to it.

    Exactly!

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    Listen i do realise all of that but i really just want some sound advice on some of these products. I am researching and all and part of that i to post questions on here and talk to other peoples experiences with them.

    Please just gimme info on things like hgh fragment, igf 3, albuterol, keto, kynoselen, stimol, clen /t3/t4 and anything else i missed.

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    if you just want to lose weight fast then go with a stack of clenbuteral and cytomel or (t3/t4)

    Do atleast some form of cardio 5-6 days a week, for 20 minutes

    you could loose a lot of weight pretty quickly by stacking clen with t3/t4... but you wont gain much muscle since t3/t4 is very catabolic

    you will loose a lot of weight pretty quickly like that

    get a really clean diet and try to keep it under 2000 calories

    if your looking for instant gratification there is always liposuction

    but whats important, regardless of what cutting drugs you try to take, is that you do some form of cardio atleast 5 days a week, for atleast 15 minutes

    you'll lose the weight if you focus on it hard enough

    all i hear about the HGH fragment is that its useless

    make sure you tell your doctor about taking clen and t3/t4
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