Higetropin

[alextg]

My source said he has an hgh called Higetropin .... Dont know the origin yet , but its in 8iu vials ... Anyone ever heard of it ?
Thx

[mg1228]

its good stuff--4 weeks in--but my buddy is a month in says he feels like superman

[fujitsupalm]

**********?

[fujitsupalm]

oh dear, got muted... i mean h y getropin?

[PT]

are you sure its not hyge instead of hige? if so im on them righr now and im really liking them. make sure the seal with the numers is stuck on the front

[alextg]

Its hyge ... it was my typo ... i still havent checked the bottles myself so any advice on what to be careful of , not to take any fakes , would be appreciated ... I also read somewhere that hyge was analysed in some lab and they found inside albumin and not somatropin ...

[fujitsupalm]

hey bro, there are apparantly two versions, one is for China internal sales which does not have the lazer sticker on the outter box, and the overseas versions, which my friend has tried both, is slightly stronger, more quality. so i hope you paid the right amount for the export version.

8iu x 25 per kit right?

[alextg]

havent paid anything yet or bought ... i want to know first what to look for so what i'll get will be legit cause i've never got anything again from this source ... i've read that theres a sticker in the box , but now you tell me that not all hyge have one ...

[boxer1]

make sure the hyge has the sticker mate, there will be a scratch off code on it which you can verify on their website,

[fujitsupalm]

havent paid anything yet or bought ... i want to know first what to look for so what i'll get will be legit cause i've never got anything again from this source ... i've read that theres a sticker in the box , but now you tell me that not all hyge have one ...

yeah, cos the ones without sticker are definately with lesser quality, they are for inland china sales only, and possibly fakes also...

happy growing...

[DCannon]

its good stuff--4 weeks in--but my buddy is a month in says he feels like superman

Huh? Isn't 4 weeks a month?
LOL...just bugging you buddy!

[mg1228]

meant he is 5 weeks in, course hes on 4iu im on 3---sorry

[alextg]

So i finally got my hyge and i entered their website to enter my serial number.Firstly i did a mistake on the serial and it showed me that my goods are fake.But then when i saw that i had made a mistake and i entered my real serial , a msg was posted :

Please notice：

2???-3???-1???-6??? has been inquiried!

Does this means my hyge is real ? It has the sticker and all as it should have
Thx in advance

[PT]

yes they are

[mg1228]

no sticker means its fake?

[alextg]

Thanx PT

[mg1228]

hey alex, did u order from theyre site--i saw nowhere to enter a serial #

[alextg]

no ... my source brought it to me ... Their site has a page to test the serial number ...

[mg1228]

funny didnt see it

[alextg]

it seems i cant find bac water in the pharmacy ... they've never ever heard of it lol
So i got myself some sterile water for injection.Is it ok to mix it with my hgh ? How long does it last with that kind of water , cause i think i read somewhere that after u reconstitute with sterile water and u use , u need to discard whats left ...
Thx

[fujitsupalm]

it seems i cant find bac water in the pharmacy ... they've never ever heard of it lol
So i got myself some sterile water for injection.Is it ok to mix it with my hgh ? How long does it last with that kind of water , cause i think i read somewhere that after u reconstitute with sterile water and u use , u need to discard whats left ...
Thx

Do they have NaCl (sodium chloride)0.9%, i use them when i cant get any BW...

[alextg]

Thats what i was told to use from a friend of mine ... we have sodium chloride 0,9 solution ... he told me that the hgh can last about 3 days when i'll reconstitute with this, and thats what i'll most probably use ...

[fujitsupalm]

Thats what i was told to use from a friend of mine ... we have sodium chloride 0,9 solution ... he told me that the hgh can last about 3 days when i'll reconstitute with this, and thats what i'll most probably use ...

yes bro, since each 8iu aint gonna last you 3 days of use anyway... it's ur best bet, cos buying loads of BW over the net can be risky. happy growing again... lol

[fm2002]

yeah, cos the ones without sticker are definately with lesser quality, they are for inland china sales only, and possibly fakes also...

happy growing...

The Hyge I have are shipped without stickers which come later. The stickers do not have a scratch off or for that matter a serial number. After looking at a pic posted on this thread I may have the domestic stuff. Mine have green tops. Have any idea what the domestic stuff looks like ?

FYI- my friend has been buying and using this stuff for months with good results.

[G-Force]

ive heard the whole sticker thing is a scam
the sever for the serial number checker is actually in the uk

ive heard from several guys that the hgh with the sticker is hgh but it isnt actually licensed hyge

[B]hope this explains - (copied and pasted from a friend of mine on another board)

the hyge with the security stickers is actually fake....although it contains 8iu gh, but is not licensed hyge
The maker has an underground factory in beijing and licensed hyge is made by Hygene as we all know and the factory is in Zhongshan. Also, the beijing factory does not have a GMP certificate off the chinese gov't to produce hyge although I gather they are applying for it, but will have to change the name of the gh if they get it.....Also, they cannot get Hygenes other products such as igetropin either.......don't ask me how i know I just do...There is nothing wrong with the secirity labelled fake hyge as it does contain 8iu gh, but it is not the licensed, regulated hygetyropin from Hygene who are a licensed lab....if you like, email them and ask to see a copy of the gmp certificate....actual licensed hyge always has been and is still made by Hygene...


some more

...the original, licensed hyge is made by Hygene. The fake hyge only has hyge tropin on the box and nowhere on the box will yuou find hygene, which as we all know is the only licensed manufacturer of hyge tropin. Hygene has a valid gmp certificate from the chinese gov't, whereas if you email the fake hyge tropins website (server for this site is actually in the uk..lmao) and ask to see their gmp certificate you'll get no reply (as i did) or they'll spout some drivel....
The old style hyge tropin with no security abel is actually the only licensed hyge and everything else is counterfeit, although it does contain gh.....but is not regulated.

[alextg]

Thanks for the info G-Force ... mine has a sticker ... im happy its gh and not albumin or any other substance inside ... so it all comes to ... how can we tell if one hyge is fake fake or real.means it contains gh inside the vials ... I guess theres no way ...

[fm2002]

ive heard the whole sticker thing is a scam
the sever for the serial number checker is actually in the uk

ive heard from several guys that the hgh with the sticker is hgh but it isnt actually licensed hyge

[B]hope this explains - (copied and pasted from a friend of mine on another board)

the hyge with the security stickers is actually fake....although it contains 8iu gh, but is not licensed hyge
The maker has an underground factory in beijing and licensed hyge is made by Hygene as we all know and the factory is in Zhongshan. Also, the beijing factory does not have a GMP certificate off the chinese gov't to produce hyge although I gather they are applying for it, but will have to change the name of the gh if they get it.....Also, they cannot get Hygenes other products such as igetropin either.......don't ask me how i know I just do...There is nothing wrong with the secirity labelled fake hyge as it does contain 8iu gh, but it is not the licensed, regulated hygetyropin from Hygene who are a licensed lab....if you like, email them and ask to see a copy of the gmp certificate....actual licensed hyge always has been and is still made by Hygene...


some more

...the original, licensed hyge is made by Hygene. The fake hyge only has hyge tropin on the box and nowhere on the box will yuou find hygene, which as we all know is the only licensed manufacturer of hyge tropin. Hygene has a valid gmp certificate from the chinese gov't, whereas if you email the fake hyge tropins website (server for this site is actually in the uk..lmao) and ask to see their gmp certificate you'll get no reply (as i did) or they'll spout some drivel....
The old style hyge tropin with no security abel is actually the only licensed hyge and everything else is counterfeit, although it does contain gh.....but is not regulated.

Thanks G-Force for confirming I have the real stuff. I'm assuming the IGF you refer to is TURBOVITAL®(LR3-IGF-1)?

[fujitsupalm]

The Hyge I have are shipped without stickers which come later. The stickers do not have a scratch off or for that matter a serial number. After looking at a pic posted on this thread I may have the domestic stuff. Mine have green tops. Have any idea what the domestic stuff looks like ?

FYI- my friend has been buying and using this stuff for months with good results.

oh bad news bros, (Im a HK guy) i emailed the guys at the two suspected to be the owner of Hyges, and that they both confirmed me that there is apparantly no such thing as domestic sales without sticker, because hyges cannot be sold mainland china, so they just simply dun do domestic sales.
(the email was in chineses)

the only real stuff would be the one's with the sticker.

however, there are also debates with the two places which are currently producing hyges (recently both with stickers).

Dr. Lin the founder if you may of Hyges and helped set up Jins apparantly, and he left the company and started producing his own hyges, i have the website, just pm me if u wanna know the two websites.

and the other manufacturer is the factory that Dr. Lin left, the factory that has the GMP certificate for production of their pharm goods, therefore, both of which are claiming to be the real deal.

To put it in simple language, Dr. Lin the father of hyges, and the factory that he no longer works in, are both claiming to be Hyges producer, and claiming the other's is an imposter.


To break it down for your purposes:
Factory with GMP is producing it under GMP standard, with Dr. Lin's receipes.
Dr. Lin is producing it with his own manufacturing means which most probably has no GMP standards.

Confirmed by both of them, the version without sticker is definate still good GH in most cases, just generic knock-offs, your just paying for something just a little less potent perhaps, and at higher costs.

apparantly, KxFxx is also imposting hyges out there in the open and are starting to manufacture versions with their own lil sticker as well.

to really check if they belong to either the GMP standard factory or Dr. Lin and no one else, the sticker must be directing you to their own dedicated websites for confirmation.

if it directs you to some other bogus website, then im sorry my friends, you paid a lil more than necessary for some other GH.

[fujitsupalm]

ive heard the whole sticker thing is a scam
the sever for the serial number checker is actually in the uk

ive heard from several guys that the hgh with the sticker is hgh but it isnt actually licensed hyge

[B]hope this explains - (copied and pasted from a friend of mine on another board)

the hyge with the security stickers is actually fake....although it contains 8iu gh, but is not licensed hyge
The maker has an underground factory in beijing and licensed hyge is made by Hygene as we all know and the factory is in Zhongshan. Also, the beijing factory does not have a GMP certificate off the chinese gov't to produce hyge although I gather they are applying for it, but will have to change the name of the gh if they get it.....Also, they cannot get Hygenes other products such as igetropin either.......don't ask me how i know I just do...There is nothing wrong with the secirity labelled fake hyge as it does contain 8iu gh, but it is not the licensed, regulated hygetyropin from Hygene who are a licensed lab....if you like, email them and ask to see a copy of the gmp certificate....actual licensed hyge always has been and is still made by Hygene...


some more

...the original, licensed hyge is made by Hygene. The fake hyge only has hyge tropin on the box and nowhere on the box will yuou find hygene, which as we all know is the only licensed manufacturer of hyge tropin. Hygene has a valid gmp certificate from the chinese gov't, whereas if you email the fake hyge tropins website (server for this site is actually in the uk..lmao) and ask to see their gmp certificate you'll get no reply (as i did) or they'll spout some drivel....
The old style hyge tropin with no security abel is actually the only licensed hyge and everything else is counterfeit, although it does contain gh.....but is not regulated.

yo G...

There is a new twist into the mix...

www.hy ge tro pin.cn <----- Dr Lin.
http://www.bio hy gene.com/enindex.asp <-------ZhongShan (recently GMP certificated)

Dr Lin, he took with him the patent for the name of hyge i belive was rumoured, some argued that the original website (see above) is proof of the real hyges, however, all he took with him was the name of hyges and the website, proofs nothing, but still same receipes is true.

recent years, ZhongShan hygene biopharm was certificated with GMP for their factory. so who knows...

http://yaochang.yaofangwang.com/1098
you will need to open the link on IE browser, and click the link next to the GMP blah blah blah, it should have the from and expire date of their GMP cert number. (you will need to google translate it or perhaps get someone who can read chinese for you)

Kinda looks like the below:

ＧＭＰ编号： 点击查看
认证编号 有效期起 有效期止
H4064 2006年12月6日 2011年12月5日
认证范围： 注射用重组人生长激素

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

认证编号 有效期起 有效期止
G3444 2005年7月20日 2006年7月19日
认证范围： 注射用重组人生长激素(冻干粉针剂)(附3批试生产记录)

[fujitsupalm]

ive heard the whole sticker thing is a scam
the sever for the serial number checker is actually in the uk

ive heard from several guys that the hgh with the sticker is hgh but it isnt actually licensed hyge

[B]hope this explains - (copied and pasted from a friend of mine on another board)

the hyge with the security stickers is actually fake....although it contains 8iu gh, but is not licensed hyge
The maker has an underground factory in beijing and licensed hyge is made by Hygene as we all know and the factory is in Zhongshan. Also, the beijing factory does not have a GMP certificate off the chinese gov't to produce hyge although I gather they are applying for it, but will have to change the name of the gh if they get it.....Also, they cannot get Hygenes other products such as igetropin either.......don't ask me how i know I just do...There is nothing wrong with the secirity labelled fake hyge as it does contain 8iu gh, but it is not the licensed, regulated hygetyropin from Hygene who are a licensed lab....if you like, email them and ask to see a copy of the gmp certificate....actual licensed hyge always has been and is still made by Hygene...


some more

...the original, licensed hyge is made by Hygene. The fake hyge only has hyge tropin on the box and nowhere on the box will yuou find hygene, which as we all know is the only licensed manufacturer of hyge tropin. Hygene has a valid gmp certificate from the chinese gov't, whereas if you email the fake hyge tropins website (server for this site is actually in the uk..lmao) and ask to see their gmp certificate you'll get no reply (as i did) or they'll spout some drivel....
The old style hyge tropin with no security abel is actually the only licensed hyge and everything else is counterfeit, although it does contain gh.....but is not regulated.

sorry dude, one more thing, i think the sticker versions on the two websites i have posted are the real deal, one is from the factory it originated, and one is from the inventor himself... but of course GMP facilities production seems to be the safer option to go for.

and if you test out some real hyges, the number it gives you, it actually works.

try the below three things:
1. punch in some bogus number, it will not go through
2. punch in some real numbers from the box, it will go through
3. then try punching in the same set of numbers again, it will tell you that the number has been inquired (repeated use of the same set of numbers will not give you the successful confirmation)

the above can tell you that whether your product is real from their dedicated website. however, whichever you feel is the real stuff, i wont go into an arguement over it, since it;s none of my concerns, so i'll let you bros to decide.

[alextg]

When i put the numbers of the box i have , it posted :

Please notice：

2???-3???-1???-6??? has been inquiried!

This means its real , as you claim ?

[fujitsupalm]

When i put the numbers of the box i have , it posted :

Please notice：

2???-3???-1???-6??? has been inquiried!

This means its real , as you claim ?

Bud... hows it going, if it's real, then it should rather give you a success message, instead of the above (if it's the first time ever you have input the numbers)

but if the message you got was from the first time you punch in the codes, then it's not legit hyges, since they have just simply applied an old number to the sticker and the replicated box and sent it to ya.

[fujitsupalm]

When i put the numbers of the box i have , it posted :

Please notice：

2???-3???-1???-6??? has been inquiried!

This means its real , as you claim ?

It will give you this message if the first time u put the code in is their legit product:


" Please notice：

9119-8653-4283-4135 is true serial number!

Your inquiry goods： **********"

If you try and search the same codes again you get the message

" Please notice：

9119-8653-4283-4135 has been inquiried! "

[PT]

i have the ones with the sticker and i can asure you there 100% legit.

[boxer1]

^^same here, been on the ones with stickers now for 4 months and had to drop the dose because of sides, def legit.

[fm2002]

oh bad news bros, (Im a HK guy) i emailed the guys at the two suspected to be the owner of Hyges, and that they both confirmed me that there is apparantly no such thing as domestic sales without sticker, because hyges cannot be sold mainland china, so they just simply dun do domestic sales.
(the email was in chineses)

the only real stuff would be the one's with the sticker.

however, there are also debates with the two places which are currently producing hyges (recently both with stickers).

Dr. Lin the founder if you may of Hyges and helped set up Jins apparantly, and he left the company and started producing his own hyges, i have the website, just pm me if u wanna know the two websites.

and the other manufacturer is the factory that Dr. Lin left, the factory that has the GMP certificate for production of their pharm goods, therefore, both of which are claiming to be the real deal.

To put it in simple language, Dr. Lin the father of hyges, and the factory that he no longer works in, are both claiming to be Hyges producer, and claiming the other's is an imposter.


To break it down for your purposes:
Factory with GMP is producing it under GMP standard, with Dr. Lin's receipes.
Dr. Lin is producing it with his own manufacturing means which most probably has no GMP standards.

Confirmed by both of them, the version without sticker is definate still good GH in most cases, just generic knock-offs, your just paying for something just a little less potent perhaps, and at higher costs.

apparantly, KxFxx is also imposting hyges out there in the open and are starting to manufacture versions with their own lil sticker as well.

to really check if they belong to either the GMP standard factory or Dr. Lin and no one else, the sticker must be directing you to their own dedicated websites for confirmation.

if it directs you to some other bogus website, then im sorry my friends, you paid a lil more than necessary for some other GH.

AFter an all nighter reading another forum thread (23 pages) ( not sure I can include the link here so if anybody wants it PM me ) and from your response I'm 99% ( are you ever 100% sure in this everchanging market) sure I have Dr. Lin's non GMP certified stuff. Box, labels, vials, website and email are the same.

Guess my next question(s) is whose is better ? Dr. Lin's current batch or from his old company ? Also I'm confused about security numbers. Does Dr. Lin's current company have security codes/numbers ? The website and my lot have none ????

FYI- have read on the thread provided above that Dr. Lin's first company was GenSci (Jintropin).

[G-Force]

my "friend" in china sent me this...

PS hyge - tropin has been starred out by AR sorry about that

i read the focus you gave me, i think there are so many men work
for Lin in the focus...
first, you must let everyone know that the GMP certificate stands
for a high enviroment for the factory, Lin has not GMP, so his Lab
has not any ensurement for the enviroment, he only know how to make
the hgh, but without the good enviroment, the grade of gh will go
down for sure...
you must know, to make a GMP grade factory will cost lots of
money...
to make a UG lab, it is more more more easy...and cheaper...
everyone should know when Lin was in Hygene, hygene produce
**********, when he left, hygene will also produces it, as i said
before, the ********** was produced by a whole company, not one
man, one man can not produce it...
the ********** not belongs to one man, it belongs to a company who
make it...
one more thing, Lin left hygene in Sep, 2007, and his UG "hygene"
was built recently, around Dec, 2008,
in this period, he still sell **********, where his ********** come
from?
so many chinese know that his product comes from a real real real
UG lab "kefei", he buy gh from Kefei, then sell it to others,
in this period, all the ********** was from a unknow UG lab, how
bad it is!!!
and the real hygene produces the ********** always in the GMP
standard..
we must know the difference bwtween GMP or un-GMP.

[alextg]

So the ones with the sticker are produced from the company DrLin left , and the ones that doesnt have are from some ug lab he's working atm and makes them ? Im kinda confused ...

[G-Force]

what the HK guy is saying below is correct:

Quote:
Dr. Lin the founder if you may of Hyges and helped set up Jins apparantly, and he left the company and started producing his own hyges,

and the other manufacturer is the factory that Dr. Lin left, the factory that has the GMP certificate for production of their pharm goods, therefore, both of which are claiming to be the real deal.

To put it in simple language, Dr. Lin the father of hyges, and the factory that he no longer works in, are both claiming to be Hyges producer, and claiming the other's is an imposter

but he then contridicts himself saying the original is the imposter

the lab in zangshon made Hyge originally so how do they then become the fakers just because one guy has left??

[fujitsupalm]

So the ones with the sticker are produced from the company DrLin left , and the ones that doesnt have are from some ug lab he's working atm and makes them ? Im kinda confused ...

they both now have stickers, websites are below for each version:

GMP certificated version checker:
http://www.**********.com.cn/index.p...pper&Itemid=56

Dr Lin version checker:
http://www.**********.cn/search.htm

yes G-Force is absolutely right, GMP costs a lot of money and it takes 2, 3 yrs of following standards and dedication to achieve, not something Dr. Lin can do / proof.