My HGH was fake!

**GearIdentity** · 07-15-2009, 08:18 PM

Originally Posted by AP123

WHAT THE F..K?

im not to sure but i'd say thats not good,but are you suggesting that maybe the hyges are actually dropping your igf levels???

Both blue tops and **********s HGH.

**bag up pr bagpipe** · 07-16-2009, 02:28 PM

Originally Posted by AP123

WHAT THE F..K?

im not to sure but i'd say thats not good,but are you suggesting that maybe the hyges are actually dropping your igf levels???

this is not good coming from another person. I'v just ran 200iu of hyge and will be swaping to g-tropin as of tuesday will let u guys know if I notice any sugnificant changes

**lovbyts** · 07-19-2009, 04:31 AM

Originally Posted by AP123

WHAT THE F..K?

im not to sure but i'd say thats not good,but are you suggesting that maybe the hyges are actually dropping your igf levels???

If that's the case what do we/you/someone know of that could be faked for HGH and lower you IGF levels?

**higherdesire** · 07-19-2009, 05:37 AM

lovbyts, shouldn't the first question be have you seen results? I guess the reasoning there for me is that the igf will only be elevated from supplemental hgh when the body is destroying it. So if your levels are low already, and you inject hgh, say 10 iu, and take a blood test 2 hours later, your igf levels would not be elevated yet, 6 hours later probably so, but even then only by 3-4 mcg of igf per iu of gh, so 30 -40 mcg's in this example.

I guess my question would be do igf levels drop right after injection/production of hgh and then spike while it is being destroyed? Is that the cycle of the body normallly? I don't know. If so then the timing of your blood test would be critical for accuracy of gh results measuring. I mean we wouldn't pin igf PWO if it remained effective throughout a 24 hr peroid, we could do it ed at the same time and get the best results right?

Ok, I am done with my silly questions.

**lovbyts** · 07-19-2009, 06:40 AM

Originally Posted by higherdesire

lovbyts, shouldn't the first question be have you seen results? I guess the reasoning there for me is that the igf will only be elevated from supplemental hgh when the body is destroying it. So if your levels are low already, and you inject hgh, say 10 iu, and take a blood test 2 hours later, your igf levels would not be elevated yet, 6 hours later probably so, but even then only by 3-4 mcg of igf per iu of gh, so 30 -40 mcg's in this example.

I guess my question would be do igf levels drop right after injection/production of hgh and then spike while it is being destroyed? Is that the cycle of the body normallly? I don't know. If so then the timing of your blood test would be critical for accuracy of gh results measuring. I mean we wouldn't pin igf PWO if it remained effective throughout a 24 hr peroid, we could do it ed at the same time and get the best results right?

Ok, I am done with my silly questions.

I didnt read back to the beginning again but I think that was already asked.

Good questions. Also has anyone taken 100% real HGH and done a couple similar blood test and where their igf levels elevated or lower???

I see what you are getting at, we are only assuming the igf levels will be higher.

**higherdesire** · 07-19-2009, 08:30 AM

I am just curious too so if anyone has some input please post it up for us. I will see what I can find on it over the next few days too.

**astrix79** · 07-19-2009, 08:47 AM

my hyge
no stickers/security code
and have no name on it www.*********.cn
and spinweehl
and they r working awesome

Batch no: 20080513
MFG Date: 20080502
Exp Date: 2010.04

maybe old batch i have,and some will claim that mine is fake cause no stickers/security code,,,but their is 2 Hygen cause company was splitted
and i dont trust none of those web sites with hygen info...they only scam you high prices

**GearIdentity** · 07-19-2009, 04:02 PM

More detail on my blood work.

4/10/2009 Hyges 8iu/day. 40 days in. 8am 2.7ius, 9:22pm blood drawn. Result, 223ng/ml.

4/13/2009 Hyges..to reassure testing took 12iu at 9am, 10:48am blood drawn, results showed 133ng/ml.

Switched to generic blue tops 10ius ed...

6/03/2009 3.3ius at 8am, 3.3ius at noon, blood drawn at 1:51pm, results showed 185ng/ml. Also checked Free T3, Free T4 and TSH levels. Free T4 levels were high.

7/10/2009 3.3ius at 8am, blood drawn at 12:23pm, results showed 82ng/ml.

Thats it for now. My results have been what I expected from HGH, managed to stay lean while bulking. Experienced sides such as joint pain, bloating, etc. I dont understand why my igf-1 levels are so low. Might do another test 24hrs after last dose, I might be suppressing my own growth secretion temporarily.

**AP123** · 07-19-2009, 09:45 PM

Originally Posted by GearIdentity

More detail on my blood work.

4/10/2009 Hyges 8iu/day. 40 days in. 8am 2.7ius, 9:22pm blood drawn. Result, 223ng/ml.

4/13/2009 Hyges..to reassure testing took 12iu at 9am, 10:48am blood drawn, results showed 133ng/ml.

Switched to generic blue tops 10ius ed...

6/03/2009 3.3ius at 8am, 3.3ius at noon, blood drawn at 1:51pm, results showed 185ng/ml. Also checked Free T3, Free T4 and TSH levels. Free T4 levels were high.

7/10/2009 3.3ius at 8am, blood drawn at 12:23pm, results showed 82ng/ml.

Thats it for now. My results have been what I expected from HGH, managed to stay lean while bulking. Experienced sides such as joint pain, bloating, etc. I dont understand why my igf-1 levels are so low. Might do another test 24hrs after last dose, I might be suppressing my own growth secretion temporarily.

MAYBE... just MAYBE??? this is y they say this is un testable drug!!!!! well im not sure but i'd say theres something to all this igf levels randomly jumping around? idk but i'd like to here some other thoughts on this also, it has me wondering myself.

**JimInAK** · 07-25-2009, 12:10 AM

I seriously question the accuracy of GearIdentity's tests. From my experience, three or four days after taking 4 iu per day, my IGF-1 level increased about 20%. The changes caused by HGH to the IGF-1 level in your blood are cumulative and not immediate. I more than doubled my IGF-1 test result after 30 days.

From my experience, and I do NOT claim to be an authority, any IGF-1 test that shows dramatic changes from one day to the next should be questioned regarding the accuracy of the test.

**cvictorg** · 07-26-2009, 08:46 AM

Lab test: no growth hormone in **********

There is no growth hormone in the Chinese growth hormone drug **********. According to an analysis by a certified research laboratory, the results of which Ergo-log has received, ********** contains – wait for it – albumin.

http://www.ergo-log.com/**********.html

**AP123** · 07-26-2009, 10:18 AM

Originally Posted by cvictorg;4***783

Lab test: no growth hormone in **********

There is no growth hormone in the Chinese growth hormone drug **********. According to an analysis by a certified research laboratory, the results of which Ergo-log has received, ********** contains ? wait for it ? albumin.

http://www.ergo-log.com/**********.html

Bro, as stated on the first page of this thread....F..K ergo-log.com!!!!!!! those type of sites are bullcrap an usally are tryin to promote another product.

**Slide** · 07-27-2009, 02:16 PM

Hey all - So i wanted to update everyone. I shipped the original HGH i had back to Biohygene (they wanted it to test it) and they agreed to ship me a new shipment of HGH for the total amount that i originally ordered. I felt that was pretty good on their part.

The new HGH came today. It seemed to be packaged much better than before. This time there was a static free bag sealing the HGH, then there was also foil all around the vials. Basically it looks like they have taken a lot of care in this shipment of HGH. I just shot 8iu and will let you all know how I feel.

Also as an odd side note, customs opened my HGH and looked at it, then closed it up and shipped in on...weird.

Although I was not pleased with my first batch of HGH, i have been please with the care Biohygene have given this matter. i only hope this product lives up to that too.

**inkslinger** · 07-29-2009, 04:02 PM

im rnning the same EXACT stuff - same batch and exp .. im getting great results for being only 3 months in ... the sides were pretty harsh with these (felt like i had carpal tunnel BAD in the beginning, now its not so bad as ive gotten used to it) ...the weird thing is ALL of my hyge's had the same ANTI counterfeit sticker number... I got mine from a very realiable source and all the other gh ive gotten from him in the past has been fine ..
Sorry to hear about all the troubles .. there HAS been a lot of speculation about the Hyge for some time now ever since the hygene split ..
im looking forward to hearing about how this batch works out for you...good luck

**SpanishStallion** · 07-30-2009, 09:33 AM

I heard so many bad reviews form ********** lately that i don't trust it anymore. Some people speak of the fact that ********** is dosed 4iu dosed in fact, lately.

**Slide** · 07-30-2009, 10:48 AM

Originally Posted by SpanishStallion

I heard so many bad reviews form ********** lately that i don't trust it anymore. Some people speak of the fact that ********** is dosed 4iu dosed in fact, lately.

Did you mean in your last sentence that Hyges are 4iu in an 8iu bottle?

**inkslinger** · 08-02-2009, 05:34 AM

Originally Posted by SpanishStallion

I heard so many bad reviews form ********** lately that i don't trust it anymore. Some people speak of the fact that ********** is dosed 4iu dosed in fact, lately.

I really dont see how that could be cause the sides on 4iu were so intense..
tight hands/joints ..tingles in fingers.. i would find it REALLY hard to believe that there was only 2iu in that 4iu shot.. you know what i mean?

**reynaldo** · 10-14-2009, 10:42 AM

Originally Posted by Slide

Hey all - So i wanted to update everyone. I shipped the original HGH i had back to Biohygene (they wanted it to test it) and they agreed to ship me a new shipment of HGH for the total amount that i originally ordered. I felt that was pretty good on their part.

The new HGH came today. It seemed to be packaged much better than before. This time there was a static free bag sealing the HGH, then there was also foil all around the vials. Basically it looks like they have taken a lot of care in this shipment of HGH. I just shot 8iu and will let you all know how I feel.

Also as an odd side note, customs opened my HGH and looked at it, then closed it up and shipped in on...weird.

Although I was not pleased with my first batch of HGH, i have been please with the care Biohygene have given this matter. i only hope this product lives up to that too.

Well Slide, what was end result?

**fm2002** · 10-15-2009, 03:36 AM

Originally Posted by lovbyts

I didnt read back to the beginning again but I think that was already asked.

Good questions. Also has anyone taken 100% real HGH and done a couple similar blood test and where their igf levels elevated or lower???

I see what you are getting at, we are only assuming the igf levels will be higher.

As reported earlier my igf-1's went from 119 to 309 after 75 days of 1.6 iu's ED. I was on Hyge 8iu.

**mg1228** · 10-15-2009, 08:09 AM

hey slide, can u pm me the site u ordered from--thanks my guy disapeared

**4loveNhonor** · 10-15-2009, 02:19 PM

Originally Posted by Slide

UPDATE - so someone at Hyge-tropin contacted me. It seems like they want to make the situation right... I am going to see what they do for me (I am not holding my breath). They are requesting my blood work etc.

I will update as things go along.

Is that because you contacted them with a complaint or are they monitoring these threads?

**nevermind - I read the whole thread**

**starkiller** · 10-21-2009, 03:00 PM

Originally Posted by Slide

Hey all - So i wanted to update everyone. I shipped the original HGH i had back to Biohygene (they wanted it to test it) and they agreed to ship me a new shipment of HGH for the total amount that i originally ordered. I felt that was pretty good on their part.

The new HGH came today. It seemed to be packaged much better than before. This time there was a static free bag sealing the HGH, then there was also foil all around the vials. Basically it looks like they have taken a lot of care in this shipment of HGH. I just shot 8iu and will let you all know how I feel.

Also as an odd side note, customs opened my HGH and looked at it, then closed it up and shipped in on...weird.

Although I was not pleased with my first batch of HGH, i have been please with the care Biohygene have given this matter. i only hope this product lives up to that too.

This is exactly how mine showed up today but I didnt have anything in it. Either somone jacked the shit or customs took it and just sent the empty boxes.

**reynaldo** · 10-22-2009, 08:47 AM

These look like blue tops; I thought ********** had green tops?

**Slide** · 10-23-2009, 11:03 AM

The color is bad in the pic, but they are an aqua color. Blue tops and Green tops refer to generic HGH

**reynaldo** · 10-23-2009, 11:32 AM

Originally Posted by fm2002

As reported earlier my igf-1's went from 119 to 309 after 75 days of 1.6 iu's ED. I was on Hyge 8iu.

How did you feel?

**BJJ** · 07-12-2010, 02:54 AM

Originally Posted by Slide

So i just got my blood tests back. turns out all my gains were from diet and the HGH wasn't helping at ALL (that is b/c it was BS).

My bloodwork has my IGF level at 235. Normal is (117-329)

I was on 6 iu ED and it should be much higher no?

I was using Hyge-tropin pinwheel tops and they had checked out on the www.hyge-tropin.com.cn site as valid.

I am f-ing pissed...

Do you have the chance to check your somatotropin levels?

Also, @ what time did you take your blood work and when it was your last shot before the BW?

**Fantomg** · 07-13-2010, 02:53 PM

It has been mentioned numerous times that testing must be done inside 30 minutes of pinning due to the short half life of HGH. I don't subscribe to blood work testing as I don't believe they are conclusive. The situation of 82ng/ml is of course not looking good.

But the only way to know is to run Mass Spectrometry and Liquid Chromatography tests from an analytical lab of your actual HGH bottle's contents. This may or may not be conclusive with a bottle that was mis-handled during shipment though. You may not be able to deduce that was the cause if your stuff came back inert. But it will tell you WHAT's IN YOUR BOTTLE. - Testing is on the way. We have contacted a lab that has agreed to do so for reasonable costs.

**Noles12** · 07-13-2010, 03:02 PM

Year old thread

**hrodss7** · 07-13-2010, 06:17 PM

Originally Posted by Slide

So i just got my blood tests back. turns out all my gains were from diet and the HGH wasn't helping at ALL (that is b/c it was BS).

My bloodwork has my IGF level at 235. Normal is (117-329)

I was on 6 iu ED and it should be much higher no?

I was using Hyge-tropin pinwheel tops and they had checked out on the www.hyge-tropin.com.cn site as valid.

I am f-ing pissed...

sorry to hear that bro. I started hgh 10 days ago and I'm all bloated it up and sex drive is up and also gettin hairs on my chest. It sux and I'm about to get preg test to see if shits hcg or not. This is blow for me too

**trix8** · 07-14-2010, 04:24 PM

I just used some of those pinwheel top hyges, i wasnt sure if they were real, but did u get any sides right after u pinned, because every time i pinnned it made me crazy hungry.