GH-timing and carbs/slin

[MHD]

Again sorry for my english.

Can you take GH and slin in one shot at the same time, because GH lowers your insuline-sensitivity. if the answer is YES then you can also take carbs around your GH-shot without taking insuline, because your body is making enough insuline by itself. I am wondering about this because something i read

Not long ago, GH was used by itself with only haphazard results; naturally inciting the "more is better" principal. The limiting factor to its use then became the nasty side effects such as, terribly debilitating carpal tunnel syndrome, severe water retention, and a bank book zero. Also limiting the anabolic effect of GH is the body's own regulation of IGF-1. Soon after GH is injected it travels to the liver where it is broken down and converted to IGF-1.


Combining GH, IGF-1 and insulin creates a powerful anabolic formula that is far greater than the sum total of its parts. The process is intricate, but in a nutshell - when GH is used with certain androgens, the net effect is an increase in the production of IGF-1. IGF-1 has an extremely powerful effect on anabolic activity. Administering exogenous IGF-1, (more is more), would then stand to further increase anabolism, right? Not exactly. The problem is, in order to get IGF-1 to do its thing it requires a binding protein (IGFBP-3) to control its activity and potency, as well as to keep the IGF-1 circulating in the blood stream. If you can't get the IGFBP-3 to work, then the IGF-1 is useless. Insulin decreases the activity of the proteolytic enzymes that destroy IGFBP-3 and keeps the IGF-1 circulating throughout the body. Without IGFBP-3, IGF-1 disappears from circulation in about five minutes. Insulin can maintain IGFBP-3 for 12 hours or more.

This is why i think GH is not doing its thing i've your not taking carbs around your GH-shot, or am i mistaking.

[Klimax]

I'm not an expert, but that's my opinion. Taking carbo increases your sugar in the blood (specially during a gh cycle without insuline), so gh becomes lower. Surly insulin injections are useful with gh, but carbo and insulin injections have different intensity on anabolism.

[MHD]

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