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09-27-2009, 04:20 PM #1
The Numbness...
Ok, So everywhere I read, since I have never ran HGH before, I know next to nothing about it. No real world experience with it. My knowledge base only extends to what I read and I was told to only to believe about 10% of what you happen to read.
Ok that being said... I was reading multiple articles that states that HGH will CREATE a TINGLE, to possible NUMBNESS in the Hands. If it is Legit, good to go GH.
Alright that's fine, if it's true.. then I guess that is a great way to know that you have NICE STUFF. So.. about this numbness. Is it a Constant thing the whole time you are on HGH? Is it a strong debilitating numbness that comes and goes. When does it usually occur. If you have this numbness then how do you go to the gym and control your hands to grasp a DL bar loaded up with 45's and grip and lift if you can't feel YOUR hands.
Any SOLID info on this phenomenon would be pretty awesome !!! Thanks bros !!
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09-27-2009, 05:39 PM #2
I have taken HGH almost every day for over a year. I feel what you are describing using 2 iu/day. It isn't truly a numbness, but it's like when you first wake up in the morning and stretch. It's very hard to explain, but it's a "feeling" or "sensation" in my joints. For me, that feeling doesn't have any negative effect on my ability to function and actually I do feel stronger, but that's my subjective opinion.
In order to get any type of "strong debilitating numbness", I'd have to increase my dose considerably. I have had no negative issues with numbness and the sensation that I have from HGH seems to remain constant. I think I am more sensitive to HGH because of my age (50 years) and I have observed that younger people seem to have less "side effects" and perhaps less of an overall effect from HGH.
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09-27-2009, 06:02 PM #3
See that's awesome NEWS. I AM only 27.5 years old. I am on TRT, so I have a minimum of 200mgs of Test coursing through my body at any given point.. I will be starting my HGH permanent regimen in 4 weeks. Starting at 2iu's per day for 5on2off for 4 weeks, and then increasing by .5iu's per day each week until I hit 5iu's ED 6on 1off and run that for a 6 month slam at which point I will then Increase yet again until I reach 8iu's per day 5on 2off again.. until... well... who knows... whenever I feel like...
During this whole process I plan on doing as much research as possible that my brain can handle. Still undecided on the whole IGF-1 ... heard it does absolutely nothing... but I KNOW I need to implement INSULIN at some point.. just nervous right now about it... regardless, if the numbness is solely related to an AGE RELATED SIDE EFFECT and it doesn't HINDER or STOP my training at all.. i don't consider it to be a big deal at all then.
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09-27-2009, 06:28 PM #4Senior Member
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if you have consistent numb or tingly hands then you are taking too much. if you have those sides then you would probably have head aches as well. the head aches are from intracranial pressure that could result in a stroke. anyways, your body should cope with just about any given dose as long as you walk up slowly. if i were you i wouldnt raise the dose at .5iu ed. i would walk up 1iu per wk and if you get to a point that the sides bother you then back the dose down an iu and try to bump it up again the next wk. hope that helps.
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09-27-2009, 06:51 PM #5
I agree, .5iu's ed is too fast of an increase. You'll definitely get numbness increasing this fast. The numbness is because hgh can cause you to hold water and it puts pressure on the nerves in your wrist.
If you get numbness back off on your dose a bit and then increase again slowly.
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09-27-2009, 07:37 PM #6
No No No guys... .5iu's of increase ED every week.. for instance.
Wks 1-4 - 2iu's ED - 5on 2off
Wk 5 - 2.5iu's ED- 5on 2off
Wk 6 - 3iu's ED- 5on 2off (Twice Daily Injections)
Wk 7 - 3.5iu's ED - 5on 2off (Twice Daily Injections)
Wk 8 - 4iu's ED - 5on 2off (Twice Daily Injections)
Wk 9 - 4.5iu's ED - 5on 2off (Twice Daily Injections)
Wk 10 - 5iu's ED - 6on 1off (Twice Daily Injections)
Wk 11 - 5.5iu's ED - 6on 1off (Twice Daily Injections)
Wk 12 - 6iu's ED - 5on 2off (Twice Daily Injections)
Wk 13 - 6.5iu's ED - 5on 2off (Twice Daily Injections)
Wk 14 - 7iu's ED - 5on 2off (Twice Daily Injections)
Wk 15 - 7.5iu's ED - 5on 2off (Twice Daily Injections)
Wk 16 - 8iu's ED - 5on 2off (Twice Daily Injections)
Wk 17-52 8iu's ED - 5on 2off (Twice Daily Injections)
Does that outline it a little bit better?? Sorry if I confused ya'll the first time.. so.. Headache on HGH is first sign of inter-cranial pressure resulting in strokes.... which will equal DEATH...??
Is This the APPROPRIATE DOSING REGIMEN I SHOULD BE FOLLOWING GUYS !?!? Thanks!!
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09-27-2009, 08:15 PM #7
That looks real good Deuce, but remember if the sides get bad back off for a week and then increase again slowly.
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09-27-2009, 08:58 PM #8
Nice!! I mean I am very well versed in AAS use.. but this is a whole new ball game for me..hahaha.. no pun intended.
Should help me develop my physique to allow me to be in good standing.. thinking maybe PRO card within 3-4 years..
I know it aint happening on just AAS alone. I need the HGH + Slin Supplementation to surpass Genetics ONCE AGAIN.. and bring me to the Level I need to be at.
I just NEED to do it correctly. NO second guesswork. THE RIGHT TIME, THE FIRST TIME.
What sides should I watch out for?? And I was thinking of stalling out on 4iu's ED for like an 8 week period then continuing my ramp up to 6iu's... do another stall out.. maybe for 12 weeks. And DURING these "SO called Stall Out's, running A Blast cycle containing AAS." I mean I will be on TEST the whole time regardless. but for instance.. on the first stall out at 4iu's.. running an 8 week Competition Cutter to get ready for The Competition season.. and running like a PROP/TREN /MAST Cycle.. then completing that and moving up... and then when I hit the stall out at 6iu's.. Do a Bulker of Test/Deca /Primo/DBOL ... Nothing SET IN STONE.. But just ideas throwing around in my head... I am looking to do 3-4 competitions next year Alone... HGH + TRT running on a BASELINE... to maintain EVERYTHING.
It's these SIDES that concern me, HENCE the title of the Thread... Anymore ideas on what I should watch out for ???
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09-28-2009, 04:51 AM #9Senior Member
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I work on the computer all day every day and never had any problems with carpal tunnel syndrome. Even when I started HGH I never felt any significant sided. I started 1iu/ed and increased 1iu every 10 days. I was taking it slow. When I got to 5iu/ed I started to see good results. The fat loss around the belly was noticeable, I experienced muscular hypertrophy, increased endurance, etc. but still no numbing of the hands as I've read. So I increased my dosage to 10iu/ed for a week. WHAM! I got carpal tunnel syndrome. The HGH increases water retention in the joints and thus the swelling in the carpal tunnel. The nerve endings to the hands get pinched in the tunnel and thus the numbing and tingling of the hands. I backed off to 5iu/ed and within a couple of weeks I was back to normal. I couldn't even bend my fingers and my fingers looked like sausages. Not only were my hands fat buy my face was puffy with water. All temporary stuff. My joints were a little achy and got stiff when I'd sit around for a while. Not debilitating just a little annoying.
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09-28-2009, 09:27 AM #10Senior Member
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i ramped up too fast myself cause i was excited(i knew better) and i got mild aches in my shoulders, wrist, elbow, knees, and toes. i backed my dose down an iu for a wk and then bumped it back up with no problems. i had head aches as well but i only found out last wk from my endo what the cause was from. but i think your plan looks awesome. you should have little to no sides. and if you can get up to 8iu ed and afford it i would do that instead of the stall thang.
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09-28-2009, 11:45 AM #11
I am really EXCITED !! To get going on all of this.. I obviously will be running the famous 8iu Hyge's ED when it comes down to it... As you can SEE though it will take me a long while until I get up to 8iu's per day.. but for now, I think I am going to explore on my avenues of going to the Blue tops..
I trust my Source. So that isn't an issue at all.
Plus, should I be exploring other options to go HAND IN HAND with my HGH or just STICK to just HGH.. I.E.- Peps (CJC-1295, GHRP-6, MGF, IGF-LR3) Any of those?? Any of them at ALL??
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09-28-2009, 02:47 PM #12
Although I have no personal experience with GH, I have seen it transform some people I know. Personally and on the forums.
I have a feeling it will bring you to the next level Deuce. I already know you have an outstanding build, so would be intrested to follow your results mate.
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09-29-2009, 10:36 AM #13
Thanks Swifto!! That means a lot bro.
Yah I think that HGH is my missing Link. I am stalled out. I am trying to tweak my diet as it is. And nothing seems to give. Obviously aside from slamming up to 1000mg of Test, 600mgs of Deca and 700mgs of Drol Per week and bloat up like a balloon. LOL...
Yah ok, exaggerating a bit but you get the idea.
I can't wait to give the HGH a real world go... and it starts SOON !! So PUMPED !!
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09-29-2009, 12:13 PM #14
Im experiencing some joint pain in hands knees and shoulders at the moment it can be quiet painful but its bearable im on 4iu ed of the 8IU h y g e t r o p i n
been on it for 5 weeks
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09-29-2009, 01:59 PM #15Associate Member
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my hands are stiff, and i get pins n needles in fingers when am sleeping,
i also noticed my shoulders feel stiff only when i start to train shoulders or chest i got to warm up alot more, am on 4 ius a day week 7
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