T4 and blood tests

**Slide** · 11-23-2009, 11:20 AM

I was hoping someone could help me out here. I have been running T4 with my HGH. When i got my blood work back i had the following results:

TSH - .526
T4 - 4.4 (low) Normal 4.50-12.0
T3 - 48 (high) Normal 23-39
Free thyroxine index 2.1 Normal 1.2-4.9

Shouldn't my T4 be high if i am taking T4? OR is my T4 getting converted to T3 at a higher rate b/c of HGH?

Should i up the T4?

thanks

**tboney** · 11-23-2009, 11:25 AM

When you take t4 a certain amount of it is converted to the more active t3 hormone. There are people who have trouble with that conversion of t4 to t3. I am assuming you are taking synthroid ... How many mcgs are you taking?

**tboney** · 11-23-2009, 11:26 AM

Did you have bloodwork done before you started the gh and t4??

**Slide** · 11-23-2009, 11:45 AM

Yes i was wondering if my T4 was low b/c it was getting converted at a faster rate due to the HGH. I know that HGH causes T4 to be converted more quickly.

I am taking 100mcg ED

I did have some blood work done prior to starting anything although it was not a detailed and only has tsh:

Estradiol 55 range 12-56 (HIGN)
testosterone 497 range 400-1200 (LOW)
t/shgb 0.6 range .7 to 1.0 (LOW)
shgb 30 range 15 to 50
tsh 1.8 range 0.5 to 3.0
LH 4.7 range 1.0 to 8.4
IGF-1 304 100 to 300 (HIGH

**tboney** · 11-23-2009, 11:53 AM

Now there is some speculation as to whether or not gh affects exogenous thyroid hormone at all. Alot of people say it can affect endogenous production/conversion of thyroid hormone but others think not.

**Slide** · 11-23-2009, 12:21 PM

So what would happen if i upped the T4 even more? would i be burning too much muscle?

**tboney** · 11-23-2009, 12:24 PM

Whats your bf like now? Does the t4 seem to be helping you accomplish your goals?

**Slide** · 11-23-2009, 06:25 PM

It seems like it is helping. I am pretty lean. Right now i am probably about 10% bf.

I have posted a bunch of pics before, but here is another one b/c ppl are often full of crap when they say their BFs..

**astrix79** · 11-24-2009, 04:54 AM

great body bro...
looks awesome.....

**astrix79** · 11-24-2009, 05:01 AM

how mush HGH I.U´s are you running?

**BJJ** · 11-24-2009, 07:33 AM

Originally Posted by Slide

It seems like it is helping. I am pretty lean. Right now i am probably about 10% bf.

I have posted a bunch of pics before, but here is another one b/c ppl are often full of crap when they say their BFs..

Nice body man!
What are your stats?
By the way, I think you are a little less then 10% bf.

**tboney** · 11-24-2009, 09:14 AM

Originally Posted by Slide

It seems like it is helping. I am pretty lean. Right now i am probably about 10% bf.

I have posted a bunch of pics before, but here is another one b/c ppl are often full of crap when they say their BFs..

I dont think I would increase it. You look great, its obviously working for you.

**Merc.** · 11-24-2009, 09:54 AM

Originally Posted by tboney

When you take t4 a certain amount of it is converted to the more active t3 hormone. There are people who have trouble with that conversion of t4 to t3. I am assuming you are taking synthroid... How many mcgs are you taking?

Yep ... T-3 is not only produced by your thyroid , but it is converted from t-4..

Somewhere around 80% of the t-3 comes from the conversion .. This is done by the deiodinase enzyme ...

To the OP.. I agree to stick with what you are doing ( because it is working for you )...

Merc.