Too high of body fat to start out with?

**ramacher** · 05-13-2010, 08:19 PM

Hey if you are starting out with 25 percent body fat, will hgh not be very effective at all? I am about to stack it with t4/deca /dbol /test and only 23 years old. What are my best options to utilize those products?

**frawnz** · 05-13-2010, 08:52 PM

Your best option would be to not utilize any of those products due to your age and bf %

**Arian** · 05-13-2010, 08:54 PM

This sounds like a joke. Too many cliches to be serious.

**ramacher** · 05-13-2010, 09:15 PM

No, I am serious. I have grown since I was 16. All I want to do is cut weight. What are my options?

**rookie builder** · 05-13-2010, 09:43 PM

hit the diet forum, read up for about a week. repost with a diet plan youve put together, or hell im sure theres one already posted you could adopt and modify to your specific goals and needs. All those substances will do, especially the dbol and deca , is add more weight to you and put you at risk for a bunch of other problems. But you are young and are going to do what you want, just make sure you feel well informed before you make a move...

**Gear** · 05-14-2010, 03:55 AM

Too young and too much BF to be using any gear at all. Shed as much fat as you possibly can naturally first. HGH will still work, but all of your gains will be covered by the BF and will not be noticable. Either way, you're way too young for HGH.

Good luck.

-Gear

**ramacher** · 05-14-2010, 04:03 AM

Hmm what is the reasoning behind for me being too young? Just went to a doctor and he xrayed me and my growth plates were closed since I was 18. I am 20 now. If you are advising me to just shred fat, what can I supplement my diet with to maximize fat burning? Clen /t3 or t4? I have anything and everything at my disposel right now. Since you obviously know what your talking about I'll do whatever you say.

**Gear** · 05-14-2010, 04:17 AM

I'll give you a few reasons in regards to why not to use HGH at this time...

HGH is a great drug but it's one expensive way to shed BF. There are cheaper alternatives which are just as effective. Your plates might be fused but HGH is not necessary at this time since you can gain so much more naturally. In other words, what you want to achieve with HGH is something you can gain naturally. Shedding fat is really not that difficult if you stay dedicated to a good diet + training schedule. Also, as I said in my previous post, your BF is too high to be using HGH. If I were you, I would follow a good diet and a training schedule and perhaps use something such as clenbuterol . Go to the diet forum, I suggest this is your best first step.

-Gear

**ScotchGuard** · 05-14-2010, 06:14 AM

Listen to Gear and save your money for now. You can shed a lot of BF naturally using good diet, cardio and supplements. There are different sections on this forum on those topics. The main reason the experienced users are telling you not to cycle is to protect your health. Your endocrine system has over a 100 hormones that it's managing. You throw AAS into that mix at your age and things could go wrong for you. Be patient, that's the hardest part.