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    HGH: One shot or two shots????

    I know this has probably been discussed a million times but I am doing 5IU ED and having trouble getting all the 5IUs injected during the day because of work and eating carbs around proposed injection (heard you can't eat carbs within a hour window??). But if I can't get 2 2.5IU shots during the day would a single 5IU shot in the morning do just as good or better than 2 2.5IU shots during the day?? Also is the carb 1 hour window true?

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    I just shoot all 5iu/ed in the morning right after I wake up. Simple, done for the day. Still having good results.

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    Whats the deal with the carb 'window' with gh? I dont really understand how or why it works like that.

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    Dosage & Timing





    For anti-aging, general health & healing, fat mobilization.
    For these purposes, a dose of 2-3 IU's per day will be sufficient for the majority. A dose of 1.5 to 2.0 IU's is considered to be a full replacement dose for those in their middle-age and beyond.

    For gaining lean muscle and substantially improving body composition
    For this purpose a dose of 4-8 IUs per day will be necessary. Most people will respond very well at a dose of 4-5 IU's per day. For maximum benefit in this regard, the addition of Testosterone , Insulin , and low-dose t3 would be something to seriously consider. More on this in our comparative cycle guide of HGH/Insulin/IGF-1.

    Please Note
    (1) The start dosage as a general rule
    Regardless of your goal, as a general rule the best way to begin your HGH program is to start with a low dose and ease your body into the higher doses. This will allow you to avoid or at least minimize many of the more common sides of HGH such as bloating and joint pain & swelling. Most people can tolerate up to approximately 2 IU's with few sides, so that would be a good place to start.
    For many using this as a general health supplement, that is as high as you will need to go. For others this will be only the start. Above 2.5-3 IU's, I would definitely suggest that your split your injections into two per day instead of one unless it is just not feasible to do so.
    Here is what a good ramp up program would look like:
    Weeks 1-4 = HGH 2 IU's one injection
    Week 5 = HGH 2.5 IU's one injection
    Week 6 = HGH 3.0 IU's split into two injections of 1.5 IU's each
    Week 7 = HGH 3.5 IU's split into two injections of 1.75 IU's each
    And so forth until you reach your desired dose.
    (2) adjust your dosage to control the side effects from hGH
    If at any point in this progression you begin to have unbearable bloating or joint pain, drop the dose by 25% and hold it at this lower dosage for a couple of weeks. If the sides subside, begin your progression back up toward your desired level. If the sides remain, lower your dose again and hold it at the lower level for two weeks before beginning the upward progression. This method will keep your HGH experience a good one and side free for the most part.
    (3) some options about cycles
    For a normal cycle of 5-8 months in length, injecting once or twice a day, 7 days a week should be fine. While there are studies that suggest that the suppression from exogenous HGH is short lived (about 4 hours from injection), there are no large-scale studies to indicate safety of everyday injections in long-term use. There are studies by anti-aging groups demonstrating that a day or two off per week is adequate to protect the pituitary and its triggers over long cycles. If your use of HGH becomes more a lifestyle than a single cycle, I would consider running it 5 on/2 off, or 6 on/ 1 off until such time as we have reliable data demonstrating long-term safety sans any degradation of your own output or the triggers initiating that output.



    Timing

    As described above, the body produces HGH is a pulsatile fashion throughout the day with the heaviest pulses occurring approximately 2-3 hours after going to bed as you fall into a deep sleep. Injectible HGH is completely absorbed and put to use within approximately 3 hours. The strategy with respect to timing depends somewhat on our age and the other elements of our cycle. As you will see below, there is no single best strategy and it depends a lot on your individual situation.

    For those that are between their late 20's and early 50's, there is still a reasonable chance that your own endogenous production of HGH is still at a reasonable level. The best time to take and injection, this being the case, would be early morning ? After your body's own release of HGH in the night. If you get up to go to the bathroom in the early morning, this is probably the perfect time to take a couple of units of HGH. This will be the least disruptive time to take an injection of HGH. The second best time would be first thing in the morning when you wake up.

    If you are splitting your doses, two times of the day when your cortisol levels are at peak are when you wake up and in the early afternoon. Another good strategy is to take your HGH injections at these times. Cortisol is very catabolic by nature and a well -timed HGH injection can go a long way toward blunting this effect.

    If you are in your late 50's or beyond, or if for some reason you have a condition that has rendered your pituitary incapable of a normal release of HGH, a great time to take HGH is right before bed. This allows you to closely mimic the natural pattern that would occur if your pituitary were functioning properly. For the rest of us, taking your HGH right before bed is going to end up creating a negative feedback loop, robbing you of your body's own nightly pulse of HGH.

    Yet another strategy should be considered if you are using insulin with your HGH. Insulin should be used immediately post workout. HGH and insulin do some great things together ?they shuttle nutrients in a very complimentary way with each other, and the combination of HGH and Insulin create the best environment for IGF-1 production. If you are using insulin immediately post workout, this would be a great time to take a couple of units of HGH.

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    The HGH slows the processing of sugar in the blood for upto an hour after you inject the HGH. If you eat carbs before that time you'll have too much sugar in your blood. If you have too much sugar in your blood to many times you could develop type II diabetes. Because of my lifestyle I am unable to pin twice a day. I've been shooting once in the morning for almost 5 months and everything's just fine.

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