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    gh and t3

    i was gonna add t3 to the mix since its winter time and i will be increasing calroies and carbs to my diet, but wanted to use t3 with my gh to help not gain that much fat...

    im reading its not a good idea and then others say it is...

    what do you guys think and at what dose, i was gonna do 25mcg a day with 3iu of gh

    then of course my gear...


    thanks

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    You should of been using T-hormones anyway with hgh. Haven't you been doing?

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    T4 is a better choice when combined with GH.

    Have a read: http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...=#.ToC_IM3xOkc

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    marcus ive been on test e 800mg and tren a 300mg... i was not using anything else

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    Quote Originally Posted by JuliusPleaser View Post
    marcus ive been on test e 800mg and tren a 300mg... i was not using anything else
    I meant t3/ t4 , you should use them with your gh therapy.why haven't you?

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    I have read so many mixed comments about mixing t3/t4 with gh
    some saying you must use it, some saying not to use it. what is the truth.?
    also read about t3 stopping the full effect of the gh. what is the myth behind this

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    Quote Originally Posted by YoungDisciples View Post
    I have read so many mixed comments about mixing t3/t4 with gh
    some saying you must use it, some saying not to use it. what is the truth.?
    also read about t3 stopping the full effect of the gh. what is the myth behind this
    Read the link above what Sgt posted.

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    Read the link above what Sgt posted
    excellent read, sorry to juliusPleaser to hijack but it seemed a waste to start a new thread
    i was running tiromel (t3) 12.5mcg daily and 25mcg daily over about 4-5 weeks.
    i decided to stop because i read it effects the gains from GH. i didnt use for the last 3 weeks.
    so from today on ill start back with a 12.5mcg dose of t3 daily just to top up natural production.

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    i dont have access to t4 ... dammit i just spent money for no reason

    it says not to take gh and t3 together

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    dammit i just spent money for no reason
    amen to that brother lmao. this is an expensive hobby

    surely t3 can be taken as t4 is converted into t3 anyways.?

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    well marcus' article states its not wise to add more exogenus t3 t othe mix since we are looking for the conversion process from t4 to t3 to keep the gh's other effects active

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    so t3 and gh is not gtg, but t4 and gh is gtg even though 1 essentially turns into the other.
    im reading so many different opinions on this its unbelievable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YoungDisciples View Post
    so t3 and gh is not gtg, but t4 and gh is gtg even though 1 essentially turns into the other.
    im reading so many different opinions on this its unbelievable.
    Gh lowers your thyroid function and you need to supplement it with T3 otherwise your wasting alot of your gh due to lower thyroid function, now I will explain the theroies behind the why's first and then I will give you my experience using t3 and t4 while using long term gh therapy. Studies have shown rHGH lowers thyroid function and we need to supplement our gh therpay with t3. Even though we need to get our t3 levels back up to normal we need the higher t3 levels to come from the converstion of t4 to t3 because the enzyme what converts the t4 to t3 allows the t3 to be synergistic with gh and studies have shown just adding t3 doesnt. Now ive ran both t3 and t4 and to be honest I prefer t4 because it seems alot less harsh on my system, did I see different results? No i didnt really but I did run t4 for alot longer periods of time and not so much t3 .

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    so im gonna run a small dose of t3 and see for myself... prob just take 25mcg a day with 3iu of gh... and then the rest of my gear

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    Quote Originally Posted by JuliusPleaser View Post
    so im gonna run a small dose of t3 and see for myself... prob just take 25mcg a day with 3iu of gh... and then the rest of my gear
    Did you even read the link or what I said? Use t4

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    ran both t3 and t4 and to be honest I prefer t4 because it seems alot less harsh on my system
    thanks mate great comment. i have t3 but cant get my hands on t4, so what ive read im ok to supplement my gh therapy
    with t3 to avoid low thyroid function and wasting my gh.?

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    Get t4

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    how long can you use t4 none stop without causing harm ? i ran t3 and clen a few months back and i know the clen starts to have less effect.

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    If GH lowers your thyroid function and you use a conservative dose of T4 like 100mcg per day, all you're doing is replacing your natural levels.

    IMHO, it should be run with GH indefinitely. It will suppress TSH, but TSH should come back to baseline within a few weeks of stopping GH and T4.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JuliusPleaser View Post
    i dont have access to t4 ... dammit i just spent money for no reason

    it says not to take gh and t3 together
    How can you have access to GH, AAS, and T3 but not T4 which is not even a scheduled drug?

    It's all over the internet. Hint: google thyroxine.

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