5/16 or 1/2 for hgh injections?

**redmeat1** · 01-25-2012, 02:48 PM

just finished up all my 1/2 in needles and i'm pretty lean right now (10%bf or less) so i ordered 5/16 and i'm going straight in instead of at an angle. how do you know if the needle is too short and you not getting all the growth in there. idk if it's just me but i look less lean now that i'm using the 5/16 but idk if my mind is playing trick on me lol.

**gixxerboy1** · 01-25-2012, 03:49 PM

it doesnt matter. 5/16 is fine

**M302_Imola** · 01-26-2012, 06:27 AM

I like 1/2" when going IM, seems to get into the muscle alittle deeper.

**Times Roman** · 01-26-2012, 06:45 AM

Originally Posted by M302_Imola

I like 1/2" in when going IM, seems to get into the muscle alittle deeper.

mate
HGH is supposed to be SubQ, not IM!

you just pull the skin out a bit with a pinch, and slide the pin in the trough right underneath the little skin tent. Piece of cake

**M302_Imola** · 01-27-2012, 07:11 AM

Originally Posted by Times Roman

mate
HGH is supposed to be SubQ, not IM!

you just pull the skin out a bit with a pinch, and slide the pin in the trough right underneath the little skin tent. Piece of cake

Oh wow, where to start! So it's suppose to be injected SubQ because the directions on the box and your doc says so??? You should really check into IM injections as the clearing time is much less than SubQ which allows pulsation of the GH when injecting multiple times throughout the day. IMO, SubQ is to slow and will hinder the body from making endogenous GH pulses since the clearing time is slow.

**Times Roman** · 01-27-2012, 07:16 AM

Originally Posted by M302_Imola

Oh wow, where to start! So it's suppose to be injected SubQ because the directions on the box and your doc says so??? You should really check into IM injections as the clearing time is much less than SubQ which allows pulsation of the GH when injecting multiple times throughout the day. IMO, SubQ is to slow and will hinder the body from making endogenous GH pulses since the clearing time is slow.

no shiit? got a link for that?
not doubting your word, but i do like to read.

So if it works for GH, should work for peps too?

**ScotchGuard02** · 01-28-2012, 03:32 AM

I've done both subQ and IM for an extended period of time. I did read a number of articles about natural growth hormones being pulsed throughout the day with the largest pulse coming in during REM sleep. Sorry, I don't have a pile of URLs to back up my post. I have heard that doing IM was supposed to be good because the HGH is cleared quickly and should not hinder the natural pulses. I take that as more of a theory over clinically test fact. Either way, I've been doing subQ injections for going on 4 years at 5iu/ed. I get better results subQ over IM. After watching my body on HGH for 4 years I have a pretty keen pulse on what feels "right" to me. For me, subQ is the way to go.

**M302_Imola** · 01-30-2012, 06:28 AM

Originally Posted by Times Roman

no shiit? got a link for that?
not doubting your word, but i do like to read.

So if it works for GH, should work for peps too?

From what I've read peps are different and clearing time is the same for subq and IM, so no real difference. As far as IM vs Subq GH pinning, if you want to read a wealth of info on this you should join datbtrue's forum. PM me if you're interested

Originally Posted by ScotchGuard02

I've done both subQ and IM for an extended period of time. I did read a number of articles about natural growth hormones being pulsed throughout the day with the largest pulse coming in during REM sleep. Sorry, I don't have a pile of URLs to back up my post. I have heard that doing IM was supposed to be good because the HGH is cleared quickly and should not hinder the natural pulses. I take that as more of a theory over clinically test fact. Either way, I've been doing subQ injections for going on 4 years at 5iu/ed. I get better results subQ over IM. After watching my body on HGH for 4 years I have a pretty keen pulse on what feels "right" to me. For me, subQ is the way to go.

Interesting Scotch...can you describe the differences in pinning the GH subq vs. IM? Most will say they have more sides (numb hands, etc.) when pinning the GH subq since the clearing time is much longer thus the GH is in your system much longer. Most take more sides as it's working better. Not saying this is the case with you but I'm interested in your insight since 4 years is a good amount of experience.