Recently started insulin (humalog)

[ironaddict69]

Hey everyone, I need some opinions. I had a VERY hard time finding humalog, my pharmacy carries humalin, but the 6-8 hour active time did not sound safe or fun.

I am 6 foot, 255, 15% bodyfat. I mainly power lift. I believe I have recent photos in my picture thread, maybe not that recent if not I can update.

Ended up getting it from a Canadian website, and they seemed pretty legit, good customer service, plus...who in the hell would sell fake slin? They'd be offing people left and right!

I worked up to 10 IU's PWO. I literally have taken just 50 grams of carbs in pure karbolyn form, and i don't feel hypo AT ALL. I am drinking my protein shake as we speak. I have taken HGH and within 2-3 minutes I was sweating if I wasn't eating.

I have been on the stuff over a week, and I have not noticed the fullness people speak of, the increased recovery time (if anything, I have been sore a little longer recently) and certainly not the weight gain. I figured this stuff would add 10 lbs or so because I am on a diet with a calorie excess. I am also on cycle with test and deca at the moment, have been for 8 weeks and have 3 to go about.

I need to get a blood glucose meter before I feel comfortable to use a dose that is any higher.

Can anyone give me any insight?

[ironaddict69]

And does this stuff really go bad 28 days after the first poke into the rubber stopper? I do not understand why, I thought this bottle was going to last me MANY many cycles.

[Noles12]

I would go with a meter. For 20 bucks or so it is a great thing to have.

Some people do not have symptoms until their levels reach a certain point bu there is no way to know where you are at just because you dont feel sides. The only accurate way is a meter

[ironaddict69]

I hear ya man. I just do not know why I am not gaining. I have heard from many people that this shit is rapid.

[markdbg]

your not eating enough. insulin is a transporting hormone. it shuttles ur nutrients into your muscles. i didnt gain much from using insulin because i wasnt eating enough. then when i started shoveling the food in i blew up,got so bad i stopped cause it made me look like shit. remember not to eat fats.

[alexISthrowed]

Are you still taking hgh?

[ironaddict69]

No on the HGH, that has been discontinued. I was reading that where i was getting it (the blue tops) it was most likely ghrp-6, the hunger I got from this stuff...I would probably rip through houses to get food if I had to. It was truly unbearable.

About eating enough, I am just going to upload a picture instead of talking about the amount I eat. I stuff myself to say the least, not every single day, but 5/7 days for sure (2 days I do "lower" carbs {NOT WORKOUT OR SLIN DAYS}) After injecting slin I usually get 200 grams of carbs maybe 250 total, 150 of protein. I am more than positive that is enough.

shirtless Photo was taken off cycle, wifebeater taken on current cycle (test 1200 deca 400, didn't see much besides good strength gains and re-composition due to my HRT probably being too high, I will be dropping it to let receptors clear) The funny part is, since starting slin, and get ready...

DOWN THEREE POUNDS, LEANER. WTF?

[gixxerboy1]

No on the HGH, that has been discontinued. I was reading that where i was getting it (the blue tops) it was most likely ghrp-6, the hunger I got from this stuff...I would probably rip through houses to get food if I had to. It was truly unbearable.

About eating enough, I am just going to upload a picture instead of talking about the amount I eat. I stuff myself to say the least, not every single day, but 5/7 days for sure (2 days I do "lower" carbs {NOT WORKOUT OR SLIN DAYS}) After injecting slin I usually get 200 grams of carbs maybe 250 total, 150 of protein. I am more than positive that is enough.

shirtless Photo was taken off cycle, wifebeater taken on current cycle (test 1200 deca 400, didn't see much besides good strength gains and re-composition due to my HRT probably being too high, I will be dropping it to let receptors clear) The funny part is, since starting slin, and get ready...

DOWN THEREE POUNDS, LEANER. WTF?

then you arent eating enough. You a big guy, no doubt. And probably eat alot, but apparently not enough to get bigger then you are, especially if you are dropping weight

[ironaddict69]

Damn man I believe you, I had a medication change recently (discontinued an SSRI) so that may contribute. I just literally cannot imagine eating much more than I already am. Long story short, I am getting a glucose meter today, and if my points dont drop say what 5, 10 minutes after? I am sending this shite back and asking for a refund. Ill go get humulin R from the pharmacy. Would IM instead of subQ be a lot better?

the big thing is I am leaner, there has not been any muscle lost. But I am having a hard time understanding how I can take in so many nutrients PWO after slin, and not even get the effects. As of now I have to assume this stuff is false.

Thanks for the input Gixxer, you've always been a good help. In some strange world, does this stuff recomp some people?

[gixxerboy1]

i would give it a good 15 mins or so to see if it drops after injecting

[BG]

And does this stuff really go bad 28 days after the first poke into the rubber stopper? I do not understand why, I thought this bottle was going to last me MANY many cycles.

It goes bad faster then that and if it wasnt sent in cold packs, that were still cold it loses its potency. Ive left slin out over nite and it went to shit.

[gixxerboy1]

It goes bad faster then that and if it wasnt sent in cold packs, that were still cold it loses its potency. Ive left slin out over nite and it went to shit.

it shouldnt. It can be room temp for 30 days. Once in take new pen/vial out of the fridge in doesnt go back in.

[ironaddict69]

Why can't I store it in the fridge? There must be a way for me to buy smaller vials because so much is going to waste when I get 10MLs and I can only use 1-2 ML in the entire month.

[gixxerboy1]

Why can't I store it in the fridge? There must be a way for me to buy smaller vials because so much is going to waste when I get 10MLs and I can only use 1-2 ML in the entire month.

you can store it in the fridge.
ive never seen smaller vials the 10ml. Remember of a diabetic that amount is fine. They really dont package for bbers dosages.
The pens would be smaller. They are only 3cc per pen. But they are more expensive anyway

[Far from massive]

Considering the cost for a vial and that it lasts for a couple of months why worry?

Also I always store mine in the fridge the 28 day deal I am assuming is the same as the 30 day deal on any septum topped AAS vial they figure once you puncture and compromise the membrane then its not sterile after 30 days, however considering you are using a 30 g pin I really doubt that it will be an issue. Although I always store anything in the fridge inside a clean jar to isolate it from the food odors etc inside the fridge.

Great thread guys,

I hate the lack of info on slin.

[ironaddict69]

I am not too worried about the sterile issue. I was saying if I have to throw this thing out in 4 weeks time, shit I am wasting a lot of product!

I just am thinking mine is weak as hell. I slammed 16 IU's and it only took my glucose levels from 93 (10 min PWO) down to 70...WOW. I am sort of pissed, I bet my blood would hav dropped that much just by not eating for 30 minutes post workout in itself. Maybe this stuff is just degraded and I will have to work up to 25 IUs or something. 20 might do me right. I am debating on demanding a refund, ****ing online pharmacy.

How much should my levels drop for this stuff to be considered effective? Shouldn't it bring me down to the 50's or so to prove it is really shuttling everything into cells?

[gixxerboy1]

I am not too worried about the sterile issue. I was saying if I have to throw this thing out in 4 weeks time, shit I am wasting a lot of product!

I just am thinking mine is weak as hell. I slammed 16 IU's and it only took my glucose levels from 93 (10 min PWO) down to 70...WOW. I am sort of pissed, I bet my blood would hav dropped that much just by not eating for 30 minutes post workout in itself. Maybe this stuff is just degraded and I will have to work up to 25 IUs or something. 20 might do me right. I am debating on demanding a refund, ****ing online pharmacy.

How much should my levels drop for this stuff to be considered effective? Shouldn't it bring me down to the 50's or so to prove it is really shuttling everything into cells?

then its good. Its dropping you. It doesnt happen in seconds. if you didnt eat it or waited longer and tested it would go to 50. And thats a level you would never get to with out slin. You dont want to go hypo.

in 25 years i've never gotten a bad vial of slin or had one go bad on me. And thats putting them in the trunk of my bike in the dead of summer.

[ironaddict69]

Oh shit. So I just need a higher dose then yes? It just seemed like 16 IU (shot IM instead of subq like usual by the way) only dropping me 20 points in 30 min in a tad weak is it not? I cannot believe I can actually use a dose that high. I have no problem returning it and just using humulin instead despite its longer half life, something does not seem right about this stuff. With how i train, I should be noticing the benefits.

[gixxerboy1]

20 points in 30 mins in normal. Your stuff is fine. It takes time to get in your system and start working. Your numbers dont drop in minutes. Your expecting to much. What you have is normal bro. THere is no reason to do more IMO.

[ironaddict69]

Gotcha...okay. So for BB, do you think humalog is better than humulin?

Is this stuff just over exaggerated from everything I have read? I have heard people (one on this thread) saying he got so big so quick it was almost gross looking. It's not like he was my size and eating twice as much as me you know?

By the way, right after I took in about 75 grams of carbs, my numbers went back up to 95. Just trying to give as much info as possible.

[gixxerboy1]

humalog works alot faster. So if you arent happy with dropping 20 in 30 mins. Your going to hate humalin. It probably wont drop at all in 30 mins.
I guess just like anything else different people can get different results with the same drug.
From what you said earlier i think you just need to eat more. Since you are dropping bf as you said. Try bumping up your cals and see what happens

[ironaddict69]

Okay will do man. So just so I can get this straight, 16 IUs dropping me 20 points means it is a strong enough dose to shuttle all my nutrients in? I ask because I just had someone tell me 20 points from 16 Ius definitely means it is weak. 16 IU's is a big dose.

[gixxerboy1]

thats a pretty normal drop for me for that amount. It dropped you to 70 you would have been hypo very soon. If you didnt take anything it would keep dropping you for a couple hours. Well you probably would have passed out before then, but you get my point.

[ironaddict69]

Just redid it, 73. Looks like you are right. I have heard of BB'ers working up to 40 ius a day. now I know why.