Changing fro HGH to Peptides experiment

[sgt2jay]

sounds like i hear a challange lol

[M302_Imola]

do you mix in one injection or as two seperate.
if one what is your best method

No need in separating into two injections that's just another poke that's not necessary. I draw up 100mcg of Mod GRF then clean the needle w/ my alcohol pad then draw up 100mcg of GHRP-2 and then inject subq. This is the method I use if I'm injecting immediately if I'm loading the syringe and pinning later then I draw up 100mcg of Mod GRF and then draw up 20iu of air and then draw up 100mcg of GHRP-2 so that the air bubble separates the two (when mixed for awhile these can degrade).

[sgt2jay]

Thanks

[jimmyinkedup]

sounds like i hear a challange lol

Hmm I figured we could help one another along and compare notes but hey whatever LOL ...

[sgt2jay]

trust me you have me beat already.
i think it would be great to compare notes and go over tweeks and changes as we go along. kind of an online line workout partner.
i have to warn you i am a compete rookie so i will do my best to keep a good log

[jimmyinkedup]

trust me you have me beat already.
i think it would be great to compare notes and go over tweeks and changes as we go along. kind of an online line workout partner.
i have to warn you i am a compete rookie so i will do my best to keep a good log

I am a rookie when it comes to peps as well. We will learn together bro !

[Tasmaniac]

Agree w/ Patrick go with at least 3 pins of 100mcg GHRP/CJC...no need to work up to that dose. Legit HGH is much stronger so your body will have no prob w/ the peps.

I started GHRP-6 on Friday. I was getting over a back injury and by Sunday I felt ok so I went to the gym. I was very impressed with how good my back felt and the pump I got. I started out with 200 mcg 3 x day IM. But I'm thinking of dropping it back to 100mcg 3 x a day and now I'm injecting subq.

[M302_Imola]

I started GHRP-6 on Friday. I was getting over a back injury and by Sunday I felt ok so I went to the gym. I was very impressed with how good my back felt and the pump I got. I started out with 200 mcg 3 x day IM. But I'm thinking of dropping it back to 100mcg 3 x a day and now I'm injecting subq.

With peps not much difference between IM or subq so go with whichever is easier for you. So you're just taking GHRP-6 and no GHRH? IMO, you should pickup some GHRH and pin 100mcg of each (GHRP/GHRH) 3 x per day.

[sgt2jay]

another question
i get the 3x a day (am pwo and pm) with the pwo an important one not to miss.
would you suggest just an afternoon injection if schedule doesnt work for a pwo injection?

I get up at 4am with breakfast (egg whites and oats) then HIT work out at 5am. i was thinking either 1st pin at 4:30 then 2pm then bed time, or 1st pin right after work out, 2pm and pre bed.

which would you suggest or would you suggest somethng different?

[hallas]

With the news of late on Ansomone I though i would give Peptides a run. though i would run this Experiment by everyone.
I have 400 iu of good (Ansomone) gh left so i am think of running it like this with a test cycle

Wk 1-15 -Test E 250 mon & Thursday
Wk 3-16 - hcg at 250ius x twice per wk
Wk 1-15 10mgs aromasin
PCT start 2 wks after the last shot of Test E
nolva 40/20/20/20...clomid 100/50/50/50

running this with cycle
wk 1 - 4 4iu hgh
wk 4 - 8 8iu hgh or until hgh gone
wk 8 - 12 100mcg GHRP-2 with 100 mcg Modified GRF 1-29. before bed
wk 12 - 4 months after pct 100mcg GHRP-2 with 100 mcg Modified GRF 1-29. in am and before bed

my logic being hgh will help start some good lean mass while the peptides on the back end will help maintain mass with good fat burn with the am protocol.

i havent seen anyone try this but to my uneducated mind it seems a good way to end the gh and kick off the peptides

Sorry if I didn't read enough but can you tell me the news on Ansomone? I am running that right now and its my first time using it!

[swithuk]

Sorry if I didn't read enough but can you tell me the news on Ansomone? I am running that right now and its my first time using it!

How long have you been running it ? and have you noticed anything suspicious with it yourself ?

[M302_Imola]

another question
i get the 3x a day (am pwo and pm) with the pwo an important one not to miss.
would you suggest just an afternoon injection if schedule doesnt work for a pwo injection?

I get up at 4am with breakfast (egg whites and oats) then HIT work out at 5am. i was thinking either 1st pin at 4:30 then 2pm then bed time, or 1st pin right after work out, 2pm and pre bed.

which would you suggest or would you suggest somethng different?

either way should yield great results...maybe try each for a month or so and find out which one you like the most. Just make sure you space the shots out to at least 3 hours.

[sgt2jay]

either way should yield great results...maybe try each for a month or so and find out which one you like the most. Just make sure you space the shots out to at least 3 hours.

thanks for input.
i think i am going to go with after morning work out @ 6am then noon then 8pm . i like to space everything evenly just like meals 4am 7am 10am 1pm 4pm 7pm. sounds a bit ocd but i like schedules and iy makes it much easier to follow the more consistant.

[sgt2jay]

Sorry if I didn't read enough but can you tell me the news on Ansomone? I am running that right now and its my first time using it!

there has been alot of talk about anki putting out fakes. I am not here to argue if that is true or not but when i started ansomone all there was was good feed back. once i get conflicting feed back that is my rule to stay away.
it seems the trend now a days are peps and i heer both good and bad as far as results, but nothing but good things on AR-R as a source. as long as i am gettign legit peps i am willing to try them and decide for myself if the hype is good or bad.

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hey sgt in my internet browsing last nite i found (for myself due to my limited knowledge on the subject) a good informative article by datbtrue if u want i can pm it to u. gives a good explanation of what GHRH and GHRP's do. helped me a lot. u may already have a good understanding of them but figd id offer.

[sgt2jay]

hey sgt in my internet browsing last nite i found (for myself due to my limited knowledge on the subject) a good informative article by datbtrue if u want i can pm it to u. gives a good explanation of what GHRH and GHRP's do. helped me a lot. u may already have a good understanding of them but figd id offer.

go ahead and PM i would be very interested in reading it. I may have already but better safe than sorry

[M302_Imola]

thanks for input.
i think i am going to go with after morning work out @ 6am then noon then 8pm . i like to space everything evenly just like meals 4am 7am 10am 1pm 4pm 7pm. sounds a bit ocd but i like schedules and iy makes it much easier to follow the more consistant.

Its all good bro I'm one OCD mother fuker! lol

[sgt2jay]

new question for you.

what are your thoughts on IPAM vs GHRP-2

from what i have read IPAM needs larger doses but spike is longer. Can get expensive compared to GHRP-2. what i figure is the cost doesnt out way the benifits.

[M302_Imola]

new question for you.

what are your thoughts on IPAM vs GHRP-2

from what i have read IPAM needs larger doses but spike is longer. Can get expensive compared to GHRP-2. what i figure is the cost doesnt out way the benifits.

I've tried both Ipam and GHRP-2 and I prefer GHRP-2 because it releases more GH (larger spike) and it is less expensive. Ipam comes in 1mg, GHRP-2 comes in 2mg and is the same price or cheaper on most sites. The only way I would recommend Ipam is if you had cortisol or prolactin issues on GHRP-2.

[sgt2jay]

thanks
i think i will start as planned and adjust if needed. I cant wait for this month to end to get started. i have everything on hand but i will be on the road so much this month i just dont see a benifit of starting now and half assing it

[Tasmaniac]

With peps not much difference between IM or subq so go with whichever is easier for you. So you're just taking GHRP-6 and no GHRH? IMO, you should pickup some GHRH and pin 100mcg of each (GHRP/GHRH) 3 x per day.

I picked up some DAC. Since then there has been a very noticeable jump again in vascularity, strength etc.

[M302_Imola]

I picked up some DAC. Since then there has been a very noticeable jump again in vascularity, strength etc.

You picked up CJC-1295 with or without DAC? You don't want DAC as it secretes a steady low stream of GH which will lead to GH bleed. The reason we use a CJC-1295 no DAC w/ a GHRP is to get a large pulse of GH...large pulse is far superior to just a small steady secretion of GH (which DAC will give you). Not to mention your body will build up resistance since the GH is not pulsed.

[Tasmaniac]

You picked up CJC-1295 with or without DAC? You don't want DAC as it secretes a steady low stream of GH which will lead to GH bleed. The reason we use a CJC-1295 no DAC w/ a GHRP is to get a large pulse of GH...large pulse is far superior to just a small steady secretion of GH (which DAC will give you). Not to mention your body will build up resistance since the GH is not pulsed.

With DAC. The main reason I chose it was because I didn't need to inject it as often. But when I buy my next supply I will change over and see how I go. Maybe some IGF-1 as well.

[M302_Imola]

With DAC. The main reason I chose it was because I didn't need to inject it as often. But when I buy my next supply I will change over and see how I go. Maybe some IGF-1 as well.

Yeah def. make the change and I hope you're body doesn't become GH resistant due to the DAC. Injecting 3 times a day does suck but after awhile you'll get use to your body becoming a pin cushion.

[Tasmaniac]

Yeah def. make the change and I hope you're body doesn't become GH resistant due to the DAC. Injecting 3 times a day does suck but after awhile you'll get use to your body becoming a pin cushion.

Is that what happens? Fark. The problem I'm having is severe bloating. I've cut back my carbs and replaced it with protein but I'm still getting it. I'm eating more chicken breast and fish than before which is a good thing. It bloats me that much it pushes on my ribs..

[M302_Imola]

Is that what happens? Fark. The problem I'm having is severe bloating. I've cut back my carbs and replaced it with protein but I'm still getting it. I'm eating more chicken breast and fish than before which is a good thing. It bloats me that much it pushes on my ribs..

The bloating you mention could be due to the DAC, although it's tough to say (to many other variables). Honestly I would drop the DAC and pickup some CJC-1295 no DAC (also known as Mod GRF1-29) to run along side your GHRP of choice.

[Tasmaniac]

The bloating you mention could be due to the DAC, although it's tough to say (to many other variables). Honestly I would drop the DAC and pickup some CJC-1295 no DAC (also known as Mod GRF1-29) to run along side your GHRP of choice.

The bloating started before I added DAC. I have added more chicken breast and fish to my diet and have cut rice out altogether. It has helped a bit. I haven't been this hungry since I was a teenager.

When I get my next order of GHRP I will make the change. Thanks

[M302_Imola]

The bloating started before I added DAC. I have added more chicken breast and fish to my diet and have cut rice out altogether. It has helped a bit. I haven't been this hungry since I was a teenager.

When I get my next order of GHRP I will make the change. Thanks

good deal...being hungry is a good thing if you can control what you eat and eat the right things and not gorge on shit like sweets and such.

[Tasmaniac]

good deal...being hungry is a good thing if you can control what you eat and eat the right things and not gorge on shit like sweets and such.

I've never really been into cake, chocolate and candy anyway. I've pretty much removed carbs from my diet now. I mainly eat veggies and meat. That seems to be doing the trick. I'm still growing pretty quick and my strength is improving probably quicker than ever.

[M302_Imola]

I've never really been into cake, chocolate and candy anyway. I've pretty much removed carbs from my diet now. I mainly eat veggies and meat. That seems to be doing the trick. I'm still growing pretty quick and my strength is improving probably quicker than ever.

Sounds like you're on the right path then!

[Tasmaniac]

Q

Sounds like you're on the right path then!

It's a very positive result so far. I'm putting on nearly as much weight as I did on my last sus cycle. Since its working so well, I'm in two minds whether I just stick with the GHRP-6 and just add IGF-1 instead. By the sound of it I would probably get more of a benefit from doing that. I'm probably gaining about 1.5 kg every two weeks. 1 kg a week would be the aim.

I've really changed my ways and have got a much better diet regimen in place. Now when I hear "hard gainer" I think oh this bloke needs a change in lifestyle to support muscle growth. I try and live by the three hour rule. If I can't eat I atleast have a protein drink or something. And it works a treat! Once I get to 220lb lean I'm thinking about doing some pt work to help fellow skinny dudes out and show them how to get bigger.

[M302_Imola]

Q

It's a very positive result so far. I'm putting on nearly as much weight as I did on my last sus cycle. Since its working so well, I'm in two minds whether I just stick with the GHRP-6 and just add IGF-1 instead. By the sound of it I would probably get more of a benefit from doing that. I'm probably gaining about 1.5 kg every two weeks. 1 kg a week would be the aim.

I've really changed my ways and have got a much better diet regimen in place. Now when I hear "hard gainer" I think oh this bloke needs a change in lifestyle to support muscle growth. I try and live by the three hour rule. If I can't eat I atleast have a protein drink or something. And it works a treat! Once I get to 220lb lean I'm thinking about doing some pt work to help fellow skinny dudes out and show them how to get bigger.

ha ha good to hear bro...I once was a "hard gainer" then I figured out how to diet correctly, what a world of difference!

[Tasmaniac]

ha ha good to hear bro...I once was a "hard gainer" then I figured out how to diet correctly, what a world of difference!

I'm hoping to start IGF-1 and Mod GRF on Friday. I can't wait to see how that goes. After doing that for a month I want to add sus as well. I already feel like a pin cushion so adding more should be interesting

[M302_Imola]

I'm hoping to start IGF-1 and Mod GRF on Friday. I can't wait to see how that goes. After doing that for a month I want to add sus as well. I already feel like a pin cushion so adding more should be interesting

So you're taking mod GRF without a GHRP? If so, you need to do your research man as one of the basic concepts with peptides is you need to run both GHRH and GHRP as the two are very synergetic. Also, IGF-1 has been said by many to be worthless...I myself have not used it so I'm going off hersay.

[Tasmaniac]

I'm already using GHRP-6. What I meant was that I am adding those two. My plan is 3 x 100mcg GHRP, then adding MOD GRF once a week and IGF-1 after I do a workout.
The company I buy my peptides from gives a discount when you buy GHRP-2/MOD GRF/IGF-1 so I am going to give that a go. I'm interested to see if there's a difference between the GHRP 2 and the 6 other than hunger.

[M302_Imola]

I'm already using GHRP-6. What I meant was that I am adding those two. My plan is 3 x 100mcg GHRP, then adding MOD GRF once a week and IGF-1 after I do a workout.
The company I buy my peptides from gives a discount when you buy GHRP-2/MOD GRF/IGF-1 so I am going to give that a go. I'm interested to see if there's a difference between the GHRP 2 and the 6 other than hunger.

Oh ok good deal just making sure. I myself didn't notice much difference between GHRP-2 and GHRP-6...I use GHRP-2 because it is said to produce a larger GH pulse than the rest. Luckily, I don't have any side effects from any GHRP (Ipa, GHRP-2, and GHRP-6)

[Tasmaniac]

Oh ok good deal just making sure. I myself didn't notice much difference between GHRP-2 and GHRP-6...I use GHRP-2 because it is said to produce a larger GH pulse than the rest. Luckily, I don't have any side effects from any GHRP (Ipa, GHRP-2, and GHRP-6)

Same here. I've never suffered any side effects from anything I've tried, touch wood. A few people have said I am looking better now. Due to a bad diet and a lot of binge drinking in my 20s, I aged pretty quick. So I'm happy with that. I'm still skinny though so the results can't come quick enough

[t-dogg]

Whats the difference between GHRP 2 and GHRP 6?

[kmms]

Whats the difference between GHRP 2 and GHRP 6?

paraphrasing, but datbtrue describes the difference between ghrp6-ghrp2-ipamorelin as the difference between a shotgun (ghrp6) and a sniper rifle (ipamorelin).

ghrp2 using that example would potentially be something like an iron sighted hunting rifle.

[M302_Imola]

Same here. I've never suffered any side effects from anything I've tried, touch wood. A few people have said I am looking better now. Due to a bad diet and a lot of binge drinking in my 20s, I aged pretty quick. So I'm happy with that. I'm still skinny though so the results can't come quick enough

Just don't expect overnight results. Remember bodybuilding is a marathon not a sprint! I look at it as stacking Lego's...each year you try to improve and put on some quality muscle and before you know it you've built a Lego castle! lol