HGH questions

**Athlete127** · 03-27-2014, 01:48 PM

Got a good friend who is running HGH in his cycle for a contest prep. He had asked me about it and I can honestly say I have no idea.

He bought the yellow tops which tested out serum 25.4 ng/ml

He is going to do a subq injection. He was thinking running it for 6 months at 5IU ED
But, his competition is in roughly 125 days. Would it be smarter to up the dose and only run it with the cycle or what would be the best route?

**kaptainkeezy04** · 03-28-2014, 12:04 AM

they are fake, bro. hgh serum means nothing. only an igf test, the best being an igf test after extended use. "(insert color) tops" are garbage. if it didn't come from a pharmacy, it's crap.

**Athlete127** · 03-28-2014, 05:57 AM

I can assure you, it isn't fake. It's the same source I use and multiple tests done on it by other sources confirm it . Yes, Faked so many times but you can't use crap sources. Most of the time only hyge is your best bet but in this case his generics are good to go.

**Rick Kane** · 03-28-2014, 09:22 AM

Originally Posted by Athlete127

I can assure you, it isn't fake. It's the same source I use and multiple tests done on it by other sources confirm it . Yes, Faked so many times but you can't use crap sources. Most of the time only hyge is your best bet but in this case his generics are good to go.

Hopefully you are right and you're not wasting your time and money. Past success with generic gh is not indicative or a guarantee that future batches are bioavailable or accurately dosed. Every single ug lab has had problems with their products at one time or another. All of them! They don't test every batch and only find out there's an issue when they get a shit load of complaints.

**Athlete127** · 03-28-2014, 10:46 AM

Originally Posted by Rick Kane

Hopefully you are right and you're not wasting your time and money. Past success with generic gh is not indicative or a guarantee that future batches are bioavailable or accurately dosed. Every single ug lab has had problems with their products at one time or another. All of them! They don't test every batch and only find out there's an issue when they get a shit load of complaints.

That's what I've heard. My friend said he is going to test just to be sure.

So 10iu for three months would yield better results?

**Athlete127** · 03-28-2014, 10:59 AM

Originally Posted by Rick Kane

Hopefully you are right and you're not wasting your time and money. Past success with generic gh is not indicative or a guarantee that future batches are bioavailable or accurately dosed. Every single ug lab has had problems with their products at one time or another. All of them! They don't test every batch and only find out there's an issue when they get a shit load of complaints.

That's what I've heard. My friend said he is going to test just to be sure.

So 10iu for three months would yield better results?

**testluva** · 03-28-2014, 11:05 AM

I would do it IM over SubQ. IGF-1 ressults will come back much higher. Just use an insulin pin in your delts. Very easy with better results.

**marcus300** · 03-29-2014, 01:19 AM

Forget tests they use other growth peptides in to throw off tests. Your gh isn't real gh and it doesn't matter about which source they come from even the pharm grade companies in China knock out fakes to the underground market. Do not be fooled by cheap gh.

I know you won't believe this but it's the truth. Best of luck

**Athlete127** · 03-29-2014, 01:38 AM

Originally Posted by marcus300

Forget tests they use other growth peptides in to throw off tests. Your gh isn't real gh and it doesn't matter about which source they come from even the pharm grade companies in China knock out fakes to the underground market. Do not be fooled by cheap gh.

I know you won't believe this but it's the truth. Best of luck

Far from cheap... I believe you but I just hope you're wrong for his sake.

**Rick Kane** · 03-29-2014, 05:51 AM

Originally Posted by Athlete127

That's what I've heard. My friend said he is going to test just to be sure.

So 10iu for three months would yield better results?

I only pin 3ius/D so I'm probably not the best person to advise on dosing for size protocol which is what it sounds like you're looking for.
I'm sure someone else can chime in.

**marcus300** · 03-29-2014, 06:32 AM

Originally Posted by Rick Kane

I only pin 3ius/D so I'm probably not the best person to advise on dosing for size protocol which is what it sounds like you're looking for.
I'm sure someone else can chime in.

8 to 10ius daily for 6 to 12 months along side aas will produce lean tissue gains. So long as your gh is real.

**LP105** · 03-29-2014, 01:45 PM

Originally Posted by Athlete127

Got a good friend who is running HGH in his cycle for a contest prep. He had asked me about it and I can honestly say I have no idea.

He bought the yellow tops which tested out serum 25.4 ng/ml

He is going to do a subq injection. He was thinking running it for 6 months at 5IU ED
But, his competition is in roughly 125 days. Would it be smarter to up the dose and only run it with the cycle or what would be the best route?

I'm pretty sure I got the same gh your friend is using considering the 25.4 ng/ml serum test that they use. Prior to starting these YT I was using Serostim for about 9 weeks and figured I would try these out and save some money. Every inj I have taken with these YT have been painful and have tried subq and intramuscular. I'm going to try to get a IGF-1 test done this week to see if they are any good, I have my doubts.

To those that know about the IGF-1 test, what is the protocol for me prior to the test? I was going to get the gh serum test but I've read it really is not accurate. Also would me taking the Serostim 3 weeks earlier (going on 4) for 9 weeks affect my results or would that have cleared my system by now? Thanks for all input

**testluva** · 03-29-2014, 02:26 PM

If your going to take a IGF-1 BW you will see a better increase going with IM over SubQ. Do your BW 2-3 hours after pinning IM. Don't eat any carbs within that time frame. Your IM results will be better then SubQ. I've done this many times and have BW results to prove it.

**LP105** · 03-29-2014, 02:32 PM

Originally Posted by testluva

If your going to take a IGF-1 BW you will see a better increase going with IM over SubQ. Do your BW 2-3 hours after pinning IM. Don't eat any carbs within that time frame. Your IM results will be better then SubQ. I've done this many times and have BW results to prove it.

I take 3iu a day, should I do that on my BW day or do I take 10iu like with the GH serum test?

**Rick Kane** · 03-29-2014, 04:11 PM

Originally Posted by marcus300

8 to 10ius daily for 6 to 12 months along side aas will produce lean tissue gains. So long as your gh is real.

My HGH is not from a US pharmacy but I have no doubts about its authenticity.
I'll be sticking to lower doses as size is not what I'm looking for. I just want to maintain what I have and stay low in bf.

**testluva** · 03-30-2014, 10:54 PM

Originally Posted by LP105

I take 3iu a day, should I do that on my BW day or do I take 10iu like with the GH serum test?

Take your normal dosage in the morning and within three hours do your BW. Now you can see where your at 3ius. You can now compare future BW based on your dosage. You can do a GH Serum but you really want to see your IGF-1. Do your BW first before starting your dosage so you have a baseline to compare when you start any future GH cycle.

**LP105** · 04-04-2014, 12:56 PM

Originally Posted by Athlete127

Got a good friend who is running HGH in his cycle for a contest prep. He had asked me about it and I can honestly say I have no idea.

He bought the yellow tops which tested out serum 25.4 ng/ml

He is going to do a subq injection. He was thinking running it for 6 months at 5IU ED
But, his competition is in roughly 125 days. Would it be smarter to up the dose and only run it with the cycle or what would be the best route?

Tell your friend to stop taking it or get blood work. I got mine Yellow Tops from same company (begins with N) on 3/10 and just had GH Serum and IGF-1 test done.
GH Serum 0.7
IGF-1 - 154 (normal range for me 67-205)

So its junk.

**marcus300** · 04-04-2014, 01:20 PM

Don't waste your time and money on generics!!!

**kaptainkeezy04** · 04-05-2014, 01:02 PM

that whole "inject 10 iu 3 hours before blood drawn for serum and igf test" is bogus in my opinion. how do you know you aren't just inecting igf LR3 mixed with some gh mimicker. I would rather just inject normally for a month and get blood drawn and see where base igf levels are at.

either way, STAY AWAY FROM GENERICS!!

**ScotchGuard02** · 04-05-2014, 05:34 PM

If your buddy only has 125 days before the contest, I would say take 10iu/ed for that duration.

**kaptainkeezy04** · 04-08-2014, 02:04 AM

Originally Posted by ScotchGuard02

If your buddy only has 125 days before the contest, I would say take 10iu/ed for that duration.

I can't even imagine. Jesus Christ that's a lot of hgh.

**zGhost** · 04-08-2014, 07:58 AM

Originally Posted by kaptainkeezy04

I can't even imagine. Jesus Christ that's a lot of hgh.

But it's not rHGH, it's bunk whatever it is that he's running.

**kaptainkeezy04** · 04-08-2014, 08:52 AM

Originally Posted by zGhost

But it's not rHGH, it's bunk whatever it is that he's running.

i was meaning if it was real.

**zGhost** · 04-08-2014, 09:59 AM

Originally Posted by kaptainkeezy04

i was meaning if it was real.

Then he'd be feeling some bad CTS

**Athlete127** · 04-08-2014, 07:11 PM

Originally Posted by LP105

Tell your friend to stop taking it or get blood work. I got mine Yellow Tops from same company (begins with N) on 3/10 and just had GH Serum and IGF-1 test done.
GH Serum 0.7
IGF-1 - 154 (normal range for me 67-205)

So its junk.

Can I see those tests?

**LP105** · 04-09-2014, 03:56 PM

Originally Posted by Athlete127

Can I see those tests?

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I've been using for about 4 weeks and had BW done.
I fasted for about 14 hrs prior, Inj 10ius 3hrs 28min before blood was drawn.

GH Serum - 0.7
IGF-1 - 154 (normal range 67-205)

**Boozie** · 04-10-2014, 10:21 PM

I'm new to dosing. I've always worked out lots but never dosed at all. I just started a cycle using saizen. I started off with 2 iU's a day and just stepped it up to 3. I was wondering what the best dose would be for average muscle gains but rapid fat loss? I work on a oil rig so I'm very active at work for 12 hours a day so I was also wondering how much working out I should do after work of should I let my body recover rarer than going hard all day at work and a couple hours after work?

**Athlete127** · 04-12-2014, 07:31 PM

Originally Posted by LP105

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I've been using for about 4 weeks and had BW done.
I fasted for about 14 hrs prior, Inj 10ius 3hrs 28min before blood was drawn.

GH Serum - 0.7
IGF-1 - 154 (normal range 67-205)

Oh wow. This is interesting. Did you report this to the supplier?

**kaptainkeezy04** · 04-13-2014, 08:26 PM

Originally Posted by Boozie

I'm new to dosing. I've always worked out lots but never dosed at all. I just started a cycle using saizen. I started off with 2 iU's a day and just stepped it up to 3. I was wondering what the best dose would be for average muscle gains but rapid fat loss? I work on a oil rig so I'm very active at work for 12 hours a day so I was also wondering how much working out I should do after work of should I let my body recover rarer than going hard all day at work and a couple hours after work?

I would never use HGH for muscle gains, because you have to use so much for so long.

2 iu = health benefits, anti-aging
4 iu = fat loss, strength gains, quicker recovery from exercise, energy
6-8 iu = muscle tissue growth

you will get immediate benefits that aren't visible. for visible results, it will take a few months of use.