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04-13-2014, 10:35 PM #1
hgh causes less mass gains?
Because HGH causes insulin resistance, and insulin is the most anabolic compound ever, can HGH cause you to put on less muscle?
I am about to do a lean bulk cycle of test, var, and tren , and was thinking about adding HGH to the mix to keep off the fat, possibly drop fat, and to combat the lethargy I get from trensomnia.
But could HGH keep me from putting on all the muscle I could be putting on because of the lack of insulin production in my body?
Experienced pharmacy grade users only, please.
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04-15-2014, 04:02 PM #2
Only theoretically if you use a boatload of HGH. But then you'd just supplement with insulin .
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04-15-2014, 05:04 PM #3
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04-15-2014, 06:54 PM #4
anavar , no. tren , yes. But I can afford HGH, and if it will help, I will use it also.
I will never supplement with insulin again unless they eventually make an insulin that is out of your system much faster than humalog. Too much fat to deal with.
Bonaparte, I will be using 5-6 IU a day of pharmacy grade hgh. Is this considered a buttload?
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04-15-2014, 07:50 PM #5Associate Member
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you will probably never achieve that much insulin resistance that it wouldnt pay off considering the anabolic properties of gh
i think most people make the insulin resistance sound worse than it actually is, if you are worried then monitor your fasting glucose in the morning when you wake up. if you move from the healthy range then you should contact a doctor.
Natural stuff that can really increase insulin sensitivity - Ginseng (good luck finding authentic stuff)
There are insulin brands that are much faster than humalog. Apidra for example is 15% faster, and then intramuscular injection again around 25-30% faster.
Then you have the really rapid acting stuff: Viaject, Afrezza. Insulin Inhaler - peaks before other rapid acting insulins are even onset.
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better not mess with this shit unless you really know what you are doing. also, using synthetic insulin will not affect your insulin sensitivity in a good way
the amount of gh doesnt tell it all, side effects are dose- and age dependant.
you can speculate all you want and try to imagine the effect on you insulin sensitivity, but you can also monitor it like i said above - measure fasting glucose. you would probably see the gradual change, and deal with the side effects when or if they occur
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04-26-2014, 11:40 AM #6
The rule is no carbs one hour before/after HGH injection to minimize any insulin resistance, right?
At least that's what I go by...
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