Any Peptides worth taking without AAS?

**boisebeast** · 10-26-2014, 11:44 PM

Does anyone have any recommendations for peptides to run without AAS, or are they really just a money sink without being on anabolics at the same time?

Main goals would be
-Promote staying leaner
-Promote more lean mass (doesn't seem to be peptide that does this on its own to my knowledge)

**Times Roman** · 10-27-2014, 08:01 AM

it's all about what your cost/benefit ratio tolerance is mate.

First, any Peptide releasing hormone needs to be ran six months to a year to achieve benefits in the gym, same as GH
Second, for me, it was running just under $200/mo
Third, no matter how much you take, it will only yield an equivalent benefit of may be 1 or 2 iu of legit GH per day.

**AsEpSiS** · 10-27-2014, 09:18 AM

GHRP-6 with MOD GRF 1-29 is a good combo. It really does stimulate appetite! That can really help out gains

**boisebeast** · 10-27-2014, 03:15 PM

Originally Posted by Times Roman

it's all about what your cost/benefit ratio tolerance is mate.

First, any Peptide releasing hormone needs to be ran six months to a year to achieve benefits in the gym, same as GH
Second, for me, it was running just under $200/mo
Third, no matter how much you take, it will only yield an equivalent benefit of may be 1 or 2 iu of legit GH per day.

I assume you were running GHRP-6 with MOD GRF 1-29. What kind of dosages were you using? Did it seem to make a big difference in keeping you leaner?

Originally Posted by AsEpSiS

GHRP-6 with MOD GRF 1-29 is a good combo. It really does stimulate appetite! That can really help out gains

Yeah this is the stack I was especially considering. What kind of results did you see/from what dosage?

**nuttyproffsser** · 10-27-2014, 05:13 PM

running peptides alone ....your looking at tons of $$$$...and u have pin yourself everyday....to me thats way to much needles.

**boisebeast** · 10-27-2014, 06:46 PM

The cost of needles is another thing... Assuming you don't reuse

**nuttyproffsser** · 10-27-2014, 08:53 PM

to much for my taste...u can could even run the risk of getting hepatitis.

**Times Roman** · 10-27-2014, 09:30 PM

Originally Posted by boisebeast

I assume you were running GHRP-6 with MOD GRF 1-29. What kind of dosages were you using? Did it seem to make a big difference in keeping you leaner?

GHRP-6 / CJC1295
each 100mcg three times a day

now, it did not make a major difference. it made a minor difference although I did see some nice improvements in vascularity and striation. But not much difference in muscular size. I ran for just over a year and stopped as to me the benefit was not worth the cost.

**boisebeast** · 10-28-2014, 12:40 AM

If I'm not mistaken it's the GHRP-6 that increases appetite by a lot. Is there any way to counter that effect (as that would be difficult to manage on a cut) or is there another fragment that doesn't increase appetite as much, but provides a similar effect?

Thanks so much for your advice, I appreciate it

**leavehumanitybehind** · 10-28-2014, 12:26 PM

Originally Posted by boisebeast

If I'm not mistaken it's the GHRP-6 that increases appetite by a lot. Is there any way to counter that effect (as that would be difficult to manage on a cut) or is there another fragment that doesn't increase appetite as much, but provides a similar effect?

Thanks so much for your advice, I appreciate it

I have used ghrp-2 and ghrp-6 in the past, ghrp-2 does not give you the increased appetite like ghrp-6 does. But even ghrp-6 is manageable though. I never found the appetite increase to actually be as strong as one would think. But if it's a big concern try ghrp-2 while cutting.

**Khazima** · 11-05-2014, 03:45 AM

So after this thread sparked my interest, I did a little bit of looking around.. There seems to be a lot of people swearing by ghrp-2 or 6, with mod grf 1-29 or cjc1295, mod grf being the preferred.

After easily finding a supply I've found it's actually quite cheap to run 200mcg ghrp-2 and 100mcg mod grf 1-29 daily. I'll more than likely be running it for a few months to see the results for myself.

**Badblues** · 11-05-2014, 06:33 AM

Looking forward to seeing what you think Khazima. I've been on 100mcg cjc-1295 w/o DAC and 200mcg GHRP-6 3 times daily as well as 100mcg IGF-1 LR3 pre-workout for approximately 3 weeks.

This is the start of my 4th week and I'm getting a lot of tingling in my limbs when I first wake up, sleep has also become VERY heavy, drool status lol. The hunger is out of control from the GHRP at this dose, truly intense, feels like blood sugar is crashing.

The IGF has been producing incredible pumps, I think I may actually have to start taking it post workout because pre-workout and I can't touch my own ear at the gym due to the swell lol

**Khazima** · 11-05-2014, 06:41 AM

Originally Posted by Badblues

Looking forward to seeing what you think Khazima. I've been on 100mcg cjc-1295 w/o DAC and 200mcg GHRP-6 3 times daily as well as 100mcg IGF-1 LR3 pre-workout for approximately 3 weeks.

This is the start of my 4th week and I'm getting a lot of tingling in my limbs when I first wake up, sleep has also become VERY heavy, drool status lol. The hunger is out of control from the GHRP at this dose, truly intense, feels like blood sugar is crashing.

The IGF has been producing incredible pumps, I think I may actually have to start taking it post workout because pre-workout and I can't touch my own ear at the gym due to the swell lol

Sounds intense man, I'd love to follow a log if you have one/are up to make one?

GHRP-2 allegedly has less appetite stimulation.

IGF-1 I thought about, it seems to be a great addition to the stack but I want to keep it relatively simple to start. Not have to worry about blood sugar so much etc etc.

**jimmyinkedup** · 11-05-2014, 07:15 AM

Originally Posted by leavehumanitybehind

I have used ghrp-2 and ghrp-6 in the past, ghrp-2 does not give you the increased appetite like ghrp-6 does. But even ghrp-6 is manageable though. I never found the appetite increase to actually be as strong as one would think. But if it's a big concern try ghrp-2 while cutting.

I agree with this. GHRP 6 does increase appetite but for me it was not at all unmanageable. It was there but I could manage it for sure...

**Mr.BB** · 11-06-2014, 04:10 AM

Im was on sermorelin+ghrp2 started it after pct and think it had a positive effect on hanging on to gains post cycle. Appetite really increased.
Now have switched to cjc1295 w/o dac+ghrp6, not feeling the hunger as before, but all the other benefits still there.

Recomended saturation dose is 100mcg of both 3xtimes a day. Im only doing before bed, and post workout. Make sure you pin with an empty stomach and dont eat fats or carbs for at least 30 min.

In terms of cost this protocol is around 140us for me.

**jasondd1** · 11-18-2014, 11:30 AM

Ive done ipam with cjc 1295 no dac and ghrp2 with cjc. I prefer ipam, no hunger at all. GHRP 2 is suppose to have less hunger than ghrp 6 but my hunger was pretty bad on ghrp2. I rotate between ghrp2 and ipam pinning 4 times a day at 150 mcg cjc per and 200 mcg ipam/ghrp 2 per pin. My IGF-1 went from averaging 130 to 337. Ive been on 1 year.

**Khazima** · 11-19-2014, 03:08 PM

Originally Posted by jasondd1

Ive done ipam with cjc 1295 no dac and ghrp2 with cjc. I prefer ipam, no hunger at all. GHRP 2 is suppose to have less hunger than ghrp 6 but my hunger was pretty bad on ghrp2. I rotate between ghrp2 and ipam pinning 4 times a day at 150 mcg cjc per and 200 mcg ipam/ghrp 2 per pin. My IGF-1 went from averaging 130 to 337. Ive been on 1 year.

How have your results been?