Want to do hgh but thinking about starting tb500

[iNFECTiOUS]

Hey everybody, this is my thread where I seek advice about what product to use.
A little about me that you can read in the new members thread (won't let me do link ). The takeaways from that post are 39 years old, only have one kidney so can't take large amounts of protein, not trying to get huge... just keep the muscle I have and stay toned, and have a shoulder pain that the ortho can't explain.
So from reading lots of posts on different topics I think I would really like to get on some hgh as I feel I am a good candidate with my age and my goals. However, my understanding is that getting pharma grade hgh is the best choice since buying from some other source could be very questionable.
I have a doctors appt with my family doctor next month and I am just not sure what to say to them to steer them to recommend this for me as I think pharm grade will be way too expensive for me if I don't get a prescription.
So question number one:
Any advice on what I need to ask the doctor or say to them in order to steer them towards suggesting hgh treatment?

My appt with my doctor is a couple weeks out and I would like to get started on something that will help me with shoulder pain sooner rather than later I was thinking about doing a peptide. I do feel that if I can eliminate some, if not all, the pain that I feel in my shoulder it would greatly improve my workout routine since I favor the shoulder with the pain and just can't push myself anymore. I have read several threads about tb500 since joining here and seems to work well for many people.
Question number deuce:
Any other peptides that would also be of a benefit?

I have done the usual google search on peptides, specifically tb500, and there are a lot of sellers out there but I am not exactly sure what site to buy from. I am not going to start pm'ing veteran board users asking for sources. But one thing I think I could ask is maybe some people would pm any sites that I should stay away from???

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Anybody?

[IncreaseMyT]

I have never done TB. I have Serm/GHRP6/Ipamorelin/GHRP2 in one combo or another and one time all together.

They work great for joint pain. Keeping T dosage under 200mg with these will also help.

Hope this helps.

[956Vette]

I am uncertain peptide hormone therapy would be of much benefit when dealing with shoulder pain (from reading/hearing reviews from others...beg your pardon & best wishes your way).

[IncreaseMyT]

I am uncertain peptide hormone therapy would be of much benefit when dealing with shoulder pain (from reading/hearing reviews from others...beg your pardon & best wishes your way).

Have you tried them? Tell you what if you do a review on them I will get you set up on us.

They work great for joint pain.

Unlike nandrolone that forces water into your joints and gives you sexual side effects, it helps my joints without the water retention.

Just my 2 cents.

[956Vette]

Have you tried them? Tell you what if you do a review on them I will get you set up on us.

They work great for joint pain.

Unlike nandrolone that forces water into your joints and gives you sexual side effects, it helps my joints without the water retention.

Just my 2 cents.

I have extensive usage and data analysis under my belt with regards to the growth hormone peptides, recombinant growth hormone and thymosin beta 4.

I would reiterate to the OP to avoid protein hormone discussion with his family doctor (as he/she is not going to scribe HGH).

While TB-500 has helped me with knee pain in the past (i've had reconstructive surgery once upon a time), my understanding is the shoulder is more complex and time/money could be best spend with a specialist. Just my .02

[IncreaseMyT]

Where did you get the peptides? Research?

We only know of 1 pharmacy that does IPAM under a license.

Our medical director has used A2M therapy in conjunction with the IPAM peptides to spur growth in deteriorated joints numerous times.

Swears by it.

[ScotchGuard02]

I'm no scientist. I've just been on HGH continuously for a long time (7+ years). I can tell you that HGH, taken over a long period of time, helps the body to recover from injury. When I hurt my shoulder (Supraspinatus partial tear), it took me over a year to heal without HGH but when I was on HGH it took about 6 or 7 months. My knees are not the best after years of sports training but even they felt good. HGH isn't a miracle drug. It take a long time for your body to absorb enough for you to notice real healing taking place. It's a very slow process. I've never tried peptides but I can tell you from experience that HGH is the read deal.

[iNFECTiOUS]

I would reiterate to the OP to avoid protein hormone discussion with his family doctor (as he/she is not going to scribe HGH).

I should have been more clear. I wasn't expecting my family doctor to prescribe hgh or any type of TRT therapy but get them to request labs to at least get my levels. My insurance company is really picky and a doctor has to specify what the labs are for in order for them to cover the cost. So I want my doctor to request the right labs that I can later share with an anti-aging specialist. I guess I can just always go in and say "doc, I am getting old and worried about my hormone levels... can we check them?".

[956Vette]

I should have been more clear. I wasn't expecting my family doctor to prescribe hgh or any type of TRT therapy but get them to request labs to at least get my levels. My insurance company is really picky and a doctor has to specify what the labs are for in order for them to cover the cost. So I want my doctor to request the right labs that I can later share with an anti-aging specialist. I guess I can just always go in and say "doc, I am getting old and worried about my hormone levels... can we check them?".

You could privately get your blood work done, for relatively cheap (had you not wish to or be able to lie/fool your doctor into cooperation - historically, I would state my male pattern baldness concerns as to why I wanted extensive lab work performed & for insurance to fork the load).
Upon re-reading your topic, I still think another specialist opinion/evaluation is your best bet. Cheap peptides such as ghrp/ghrh are best suited for TRT users (who don't mind feeling like a pin cushion). FYI, I will PM a TB-500 supplier...but to onlookers, the investment in TB4 is not for those on a budget....

[956Vette]

Where did you get the peptides? Research?

We only know of 1 pharmacy that does IPAM under a license.

Our medical director has used A2M therapy in conjunction with the IPAM peptides to spur growth in deteriorated joints numerous times.

Swears by it.

If the legitimacy and/or sourcing of my historical ipamorelin(ghrp peptides) is in question, we are not on the wave-length.

As there is little to no fraud within the cheap peptide hormone market (worldwide), why call into question (other than to shill)?

We are on the same page however when we talk about folks with high testosterone benefiting from growth factors

[IncreaseMyT]

Just wanted to throw it out there, we would love an honest review on our peptide combination from a prominent member of the forum like yourself.

We have seen all to often men go the research chem route to save a few bucks and not get the results they had expected, so I asked because with pharmaceutical grade there is no question. Our pharmacists tell us they do not know how the research chems make the product as cheap as they do and still use the highest quality raw materials available.

So I just didn't know if you had tried a IPAM combo before and not had joint pain relief, and if that was the case we wanted to make the offer and stand behind our services and our suggestion.

We agree as well the peptide combo with TRT works amazing and has a huge synergistic effect.

With that being said we think they work well without TRT as well, as a matter of fact we had a 50 year old client lose 65 pounds and get his natural T levels over 900 ng/dl on our IMG Auto-Pen combo alone.

Thanks so much for your input we really appreciate you taking the time to share with us.

[956Vette]

Just wanted to throw it out there, we would love an honest review on our peptide combination from a prominent member of the forum like yourself.

We have seen all to often men go the research chem route to save a few bucks and not get the results they had expected, so I asked because with pharmaceutical grade there is no question. Our pharmacists tell us they do not know how the research chems make the product as cheap as they do and still use the highest quality raw materials available.

So I just didn't know if you had tried a IPAM combo before and not had joint pain relief, and if that was the case we wanted to make the offer and stand behind our services and our suggestion.

We agree as well the peptide combo with TRT works amazing and has a huge synergistic effect.

Right on, appreciate you IMT!
Honestly, the control freak/factor is likely why I have abstained from peptide blends. I like to get to know each peptide before integrating them in the same shot (especially the same vial or pen) as I believe there is value knowing how ghrp-6, ghrp-2, ipamorelin or hexarelin differ (w/ regards to ghrp and their fast acting nature). My overall review on ipamorelin is a positive one, however it's a subtle ghrp which takes a user really in tune with their body to gauge results - for me, I would only expect ipamorelin to offer minimal benefit to skin quality perhaps (not really body composition or for rehabilitation) - what I like about ipamorelin is it does not interfere with my productivity (ie.: suffering from lethargy, bloat or hunger).

I find it perfectly rational/reasonable a pharmacist has no inside information about peptide chemical synthesis (quality control or costs). In fact, the huge ruse these days (imho), is your typical 'compounding pharmacy' that offers peptide hormones buys not knowing anything about the raw materials or origin It's a shame. Regardless, we are fortunate the the worldwide marketplace does not have a fraud problem, by and large, for the typical $5-10 peptide used by bb'ers or anti-aging enthusiasts.

Cheers!

[IncreaseMyT]

Regardless, we are fortunate the the worldwide marketplace does not have a fraud problem, by and large, for the typical $5-10 peptide used by bb'ers or anti-aging enthusiasts.

Cheers!

Well the real problem is analogs of the real thing and not knowing what else is in those vials. Over 90% of the UGL stuff comes from China and is made in the same places ink's and dye's are made in, and who knows what else.

We totally agree there are many compounding pharmacies out there that are not up to snuff, thats why we hand picked ours.

These are the best pharmacies in the country for the medications we use for hormonal deficiencies. Multi-million dollar facilities.

I am not saying places aren't offering what they say they are, without controls though there is just no way to know for sure. With us you know for sure is all.

The combination that has given us the best results is Serm/Ipam/GHRP2

We can only comment on our experience, and thats just what we see.

Keep us posted if you would like to take us up on our offer.

Thanks again!

[956Vette]

Well the real problem is analogs of the real thing and not knowing what else is in those vials. Over 90% of the UGL stuff comes from China and is made in the same places ink's and dye's are made in, and who knows what else.

We totally agree there are many compounding pharmacies out there that are not up to snuff, thats why we hand picked ours.

These are the best pharmacies in the country for the medications we use for hormonal deficiencies. Multi-million dollar facilities.

I am not saying places aren't offering what they say they are, without controls though there is just no way to know for sure. With us you know for sure is all.

The combination that has given us the best results is Serm/Ipam/GHRP2

We can only comment on our experience, and thats just what we see.

Keep us posted if you would like to take us up on our offer.

Thanks again!

My spin differs as I believe the problem, 10 years ago (maybe), is the language barrier could lead to analogues/mis-labeled products to enter the market. Today, only insignificant UGLs would source protein hormones from China (what are they going to do, order a couple hundred vials per parcel and wait on customs? unlikely). Reality is your corrupt American/local biotechnology company is responsible for supplying the market (I call bullshit on any multi-million dollar pharmacy claiming they have peptide synthesizers and source xyz reagents/etc locally, just my .02...would love to be proven otherwise).
How often, if ever, have you independently tested your peptide blends? Luckily, you don't have to...as we understand your product and about everyone else's has what the label says it has...and can be proven via hplc/ms testing (and we roll the dice in the ink's and dye's dept). Telling us we know for sure is a far fetched pipe-dream given that this is such a new technology/offering from science & doctors/pharmacies. You dig?

[956Vette]

That said, I would happily guinea pig myself for the betterment of the community LOL

[IncreaseMyT]

getting you set up now!

Thank you very much.

[iNFECTiOUS]

I have my TB500 on the way

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Haven't been on for a few days but I now have 20mg of TB500 on hand. I plan to run it similar to what Roman did in his log.
I will say that I had a major space case monent as I have my peptide in hand but then realized that I didn't order any BAC water or pins. I know, I know... what a noob right.
Well anyways I need to get some ordered. Is there a good site that ships those items very discreetly? My wife is totally against me doing anything like steroids or even peptides since they have to be injected but she is used to me getting supplements in the mail. If there is a place that ships pins and BAC water in plain packaging I am sure I could put it off as another supplement order.

[iNFECTiOUS]

No responses but I did find a place online that sold bac water and pins and the site name does not sound like a medical supply shop so the wifey won't be asking too many questions